Keep the Vegas Pick?

[Mister Ed]

As much as I would like DET to keep the pick and rebuild by the draft, is there an argument to be made that if a great deal is there, say AA + Vegas 1st or Nyqvist + Vegas 1st to get a young D, do you make it?

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[rhef3]

The better question is would there be a young top 4 defenseman available for that package ?

My guess is we end up keeping the vegas pick and hope for the best, only way I see kenny trading a draft pick is to move up in the draft.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

Nobody is trading a good young d for a glorified second round pick. Not convinced that AA has a lot of value, either.

 

[DetroitRed]

Trade Nyquist and/or Athansiou, but don't trade the Vegas 1st-round pick too unless you get a better pick back.

I don't picture anyone wanting to trade a good, young defender for that kind of package. Also, there's an okay chance that pick could get someone good, who works out for us.

So, I think maybe you package Gus or AA with the pick for a better pick. Or you trade Gus and/or AA for more picks. Anything else is wishful thinking.

 

[turkleton85]

If i look at the rankings of the rookies available, there seem to be a few centers that could be picked at the end of the first round. If they don't land a promising young defender for the package you spoke about, i'd rather keep the pick, draft D with the 6th overall and a C near the end of the first round (or wait and see, if some 10-20 range prospects drops to us)

 

[Bondurant]

Of course. If there's a good offer of value that would require the pick, trade it away. If not, keep it and use it.

 

[HisNoodliness]

The realistic trade scenario for that pick would be a move-up situation. I don't see anyone giving us the kind of talent we need for AA+27 so just keep rebuilding through the draft.

 

[Dotter]

Sure. Trade the package for Mikhail Sergachev, that'll be okay by me. Won't happen from Tampa's side tho-

 

[NickH8]

I like a lot of the players that will be available at the Vegas pick. Philipp Kurashev is a high skilled center that's been rising recently. Jacob Olofsson is a solid two-way center whose been doing well against men in the Allsvenskan. If we take a forward at 6OA there's guys like K'Andre Miller, Mattias Samuelsson, Callen Addison, Jonny Tychonik, and Rasmus Sandin, all solid D.

 

[lilidk]

We are going to get good defansman in the first round. ,We better get plymacer,center preferable. Come on ,so many good players we can get around #30. I am more excited about late first and orly second than our first overall

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Unless the D is top pairing, no. And you're not getting a top pairing D with a low pick as the centerpiece.

 

[Run the Jewels]

I think the Islanders are in win now mode. Tavares ain't getting any younger and they need to prove to him they are going to build a winner sooner rather than later. With that being said I'd try to send them one of our wingers + the Vegas pick in exchange for their 11th or 12th pick. That way they get a proven goal scoring winger and still draft near the top 10.

So I'd offer them Mantha since he's cheap and still under team control. If they prefer Nyquist that's fine. Just make them the offer and see if you can get the #11 or #12 pick in addition to the #6 pick.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

I think the Islanders are in win now mode. Tavares ain't getting any younger and they need to prove to him they are going to build a winner sooner rather than later. With that being said I'd try to send them one of our wingers + the Vegas pick in exchange for their 11th or 12th pick. That way they get a proven goal scoring winger and still draft near the top 10.

So I'd offer them Mantha since he's cheap and still under team control. If they prefer Nyquist that's fine. Just make them the offer and see if you can get the #11 or #12 pick in addition to the #6 pick.

Mantha
Vegas 2018 1st

For

11th
Or
12th?

Who would you target?

 

[Ezekial]

We can get a good player in that range.

 

[Fil Larkmanthanasiou]

Seeing that Vegas acquired Tatar for the playoffs and aren't even playing him, they really should return it.

 

[Ezekial]

Seeing that Vegas acquired Tatar for the playoffs and aren't even playing him, they really should return it.

Holland called no givesies backsies after the trade was finalized. It's legally binding.

 

[Frk It]

Mantha
Vegas 2018 1st

For

11th
Or
12th?

Who would you target?

I don’t think we will be able to trade up that high... but I have Kotkaniemi, Smith, and Veleno as my favorites in that range.

I think a more realistic scenario is trading into the teen’s and taking McIsaac.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

I don’t think we will be able to trade up that high... but I have Kotkaniemi, Smith, and Veleno as my favorites in that range.

I think a more realistic scenario is trading into the teen’s and taking McIsaac.

...with Mantha and the Vegas pick?

 

[Frk It]

...with Mantha and the Vegas pick?

I’d prefer not to do that.

 

[HisNoodliness]

Mantha
Vegas 2018 1st

For

11th
Or
12th?

Who would you target?

Yeah I'd prefer to keep Mantha than use him as a trade up piece. Nyquist or AA? Sure, but Mantha should be part of our team long-term plans IMO.

If we made that trade, I'd target Smith. If he and the rest of the consensus top 10 are gone, I really really don't want to make that trade, but I guess Veleno.

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

I don’t think we will be able to trade up that high... but I have Kotkaniemi, Smith, and Veleno as my favorites in that range.

I think a more realistic scenario is trading into the teen’s and taking McIsaac.

I wouldn't do it even if we could land Kotkaniemei, Smith or Veleno. As much as I like Kotkaniemei and Smith I think they are closer to what is projected to go at the end of the 1st round than they are to the top 9.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

I wouldn't do it even if we could land Kotkaniemei, Smith or Veleno. As much as I like Kotkaniemei and Smith I think they are closer to what is projected to go at the end of the 1st round than they are to the top 9.

I could see the Hawks drafting Kotkaniemei, he reminds me of Toews. That guy should be a climber as they start testing and dissecting mountains of film. Certainly helped himself with his U18 performance too.

I like Kotkaniemei and Hayton a lot as two-way centers in this draft.

 

[RedWingzz]

Mantha
Vegas 2018 1st

For

11th
Or
12th?

Who would you target?

Trading Mantha right now doesn't make any sense. I don't see why we would trade Mantha plus a late first, in hopes of finding a player at 10 or 11 that in 5 years from now can hopefully be as good as Mantha is. With a bit of consistency, Mantha could be a beast. Worst case scenario for him is an inconsistent 25 goal, 50 point player, which he is right now. I don't think we've seen anything close to his ceiling yet. If we can retool and be ready to compete in 4-5 years, Mantha is still in his prime. I don't think we should even consider moving Mantha.

 

[FMichael]

It would not surprise me if Holland packaged that Vegas pick along with our 6th overall pick for something like the Isles 11th, and 12th picks along with one, or both of their 2nd round picks.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

I think we just need to draft right now.

The difference between 20 and 27 is really marginal more often then not.

Keep the picks this year and start building a stable of young prospects