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Vejmelka for Vezina
Kasperi Kapanen
Pontus Aberg
Jesper Lindgren.
Penguins' 1st in the 2020 NHL Draft (15th overall)
Evan Rodrigues
Filip Hallander
David Warsofsky
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So who's better...Sprong or Kapanen?
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I was pretty pissed earlier but my take is this.
Pros:
- better today
- no consequence to current roster
- LW/RW balance
- speed, talent
Cons:
- overpayment
- yet again putting a lot of eggs in the “he’ll be better in our system” basket, banking on improvement
- feels like another case of tunnel vision on a player Rutherford has history with
- continued lack of asset management and measured approach/plan
My questions are “does this player move the needle?” and what the opportunity cost was here? Wish I could be in JR’s bubble and know who else was out there and available.
Two things I disagree with:
1. The Penguins gave up a lot of value. 15th OA and an ok prospect. Chances are both never do anything in the NHL. The Penguins did not give up a ton of value.
2. Kapanen does not fit a team need. The Penguins are built on speed. They have to be one of the fastest teams to win another cup. They have to get younger and faster, which is exactly what Kap is.
Whether Kap is the right player or not, time will tell. The Pens have little time to get younger and faster. They have to change probably 4 or 5 guys to add speed while their cup window is still open.
The trade is not without a good amount of risk, but I like it.
So who's better...Sprong or Kapanen?
go!
perfect fitA reply to those comparisons to Kase’s value- Kase makes Letang look like an iron man
There was some talk comparing the Zucker and Kapanen trades. I think Zucker is a better player at this point, but you also need to factor in that Kapanen is 4 years younger, makes $2.3M less per year, and will still be a RFA after his current deal.
NO We need D. K Metcalf that solves everythingI hope they see something in Jesper. I don't know how you watch this team in playoffs last 2 years and go.. We need Kapanen again to fix this.
JackFr said:Ok, to clarify: Kapanen is a low IQ for an NHL player. Especially relative to his speed.
"jack johnson can skate. if you want to see guys who can't skate watch my son's timbits games"
@NeedleInTheHay "Boston missed the playoffs 2 years in a row recently, did you factor that into the comparison?"
Actually yes I did, they drafted Pastrnak in 2014, 25th overall. Pretty good idea keeping that late 1st rounder. Then in 2015 the other year they missed the po's they picked Jake Debrusk in the 1st round (14th overall, pretty close the 15th) also in the later rounds added Brandon Carlo a great defensemen for them.
My point stands, is that they may have traded a 1st here for there but they drafted very well otherwise and were able to surround Marchand and Bergeron and Chara and Krejci with enough talent to keep them relevant. They could win it all this year, they couldve had it last year, they literally might have been/be good enough to back to back. Barzal could've been our Pastrnak, this 15th overall in a very deep draft could've been used much better. Whether it was in another package or simply drafting the pick
@NeedleInTheHay "Boston missed the playoffs 2 years in a row recently, did you factor that into the comparison?"
Actually yes I did, they drafted Pastrnak in 2014, 25th overall. Pretty good idea keeping that late 1st rounder. Then in 2015 the other year they missed the po's they picked Jake Debrusk in the 1st round (14th overall, pretty close the 15th) also in the later rounds added Brandon Carlo a great defensemen for them.
My point stands, is that they may have traded a 1st here for there but they drafted very well otherwise and were able to surround Marchand and Bergeron and Chara and Krejci with enough talent to keep them relevant. They could win it all this year, they couldve had it last year, they literally might have been/be good enough to back to back. Barzal could've been our Pastrnak, this 15th overall in a very deep draft could've been used much better. Whether it was in another package or simply drafting the pick
But they have one Cup, in 2011, where they were like the worst roster in the Cap era to win. The Penguins have been trying to win since 2008, and still haven’t had the down season that Boston did, and have two more Cups.
They also kicked our asses in the confrence finals in 2013 which should be taken into account, they then missed the playoffs the next two years and drafted like 5 or 6 now roster players. And have stayed a playoff team and now contender for the last couple years.
So you’d take Boston’s last 15 years over ours?
Not at all my point. My point was since their cup in 2011 they have drafted better than us. We have 2 generational players, they do not. I personally think that is a big factor as to why we have more cups than them, not our drafting since 09