Player Discussion Karlsson-vs-Panarin-vs-Seguin

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Trading anything for any of these players would be dumb. We aren't making the playoffs this season. See if they are still available in 2019 UFA.

 

[Harbour Dog]

Seguin
Panarin
Karlsson

If I thought we were going to be contenders in the next couple years, Karlsson would be first.

 

[Idlerlee]

EK is defensemens Crosby, why is this even a debate.

EK


Seguin














Panarin

 

[Kendo]

EK is defensemens Crosby, why is this even a debate.

EK
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Seguin
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Panarin

It is a debate because we have a whole lot of money tied up in defensemen, there are questions whether EK's body can hold up past year 5, and the bulk of our prospect depth is on defense anyway. Don't take these as supporting arguments for NOT signing him at all, but rather factors that make it not so clear cut slam dunk obvious. I think it's quite close between the two. Personally, I'd put Seguin ahead by a hair.

 

[bobbop]

Karlsson (assuming he is healthy)
Seguin
Panarin

 

[NYR]

Seguin
Panarin
Karlsson

 

[Rangers in 7]

seguin
panarin
karlsson

age is the deciding factor, plus EK hasn't been healthy for quite some time

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

Not sure I want Panarin, there is a reason Chicago got rid of him. Also he is soft and weak and not good defensively

 

[Kakko]

Not sure I want Panarin, there is a reason Chicago got rid of him. Also he is soft and weak and not good defensively

They didn't have capspace because they signed Toews to a brutal contract. And Panarin is outstanding defensively

 

[pld459666]

In a hypothetical world where all three of these guys hit free agency and all are interested in signing with the Rangers, who would you want to sign the most?
And if you had the room for 2 of the 3, which two would you pick?

I'd take Panarin and Seguin

 

[Leetch3]

They didn't have capspace because they signed Toews to a brutal contract. And Panarin is outstanding defensively

saad and panarin both make $6 mil. it wasn't a salary dump. they just thought saad was a better fit

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

saad and panarin both make $6 mil. it wasn't a salary dump. they just thought saad was a better fit

Saad was a better fit because of his contract, not because of what he does on the ice. His 6m AAV deal runs 2 more year compared to Panarin, which means Chicago doesn't have to negotiate this season for an extension, for money they don't have (well, cap space).

 

[Inferno]

At this point I'd say no to all 3.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Seguin: I will sign for $100

Checks out.

Panarin: If you sign him to that, I'm willing to take $75 to accommodate.

Checks out.

Karlsson: I literally love the New York Rangers/JD and the Straight Shot and I HATE the NHLPA so I'll pay you for ice time.

Now I know you're kidding around.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Not sure I want Panarin, there is a reason Chicago got rid of him. Also he is soft and weak and not good defensively

OK, Captain Hot Take.

 

[Thirty One]

Not sure I want Panarin, there is a reason Chicago got rid of him. Also he is soft and weak and not good defensively

Yeah, and they improved greatly without him so I'll pass.

 

[Lion Hound]

Seguin
Karlsson
Panarin

No telling just yet what Chytil will develop into. With that said, i think the C position would have more importance. I don't think Andersson will ever be a number 1 center. So Seguin here i would lean towards.

Karlsson @ RD would be amazing. Like the idea of him with Skjei up there on the left side. Really solid first pairing. If Seguin doesn't happen, this would be 2nd on my wishlist.

Panarin is a really fun player. Being that he wants to play in NY, or supposedly wants to play in NY i would imagine that this is the scenario most likely to play out. If...IF Panarin came to NY, who centers him? I would hate to see Kreider and Zbad on seperate lines. I love what these two bring to the table. Also don't like the idea of forcing a player to the off wing. Would hope that Chytil progresses and Panarin plays the left wall.

What really sucks is the club could have landed 2 of the 3 if the Girardi buyout didn't factor with Zucc, and one of Spooner or Hayes came off the books.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Not sure I want Panarin, there is a reason Chicago got rid of him. Also he is soft and weak and not good defensively

It was a cap-related trade. Saad at 6m for 4 years instead of Panarin at 6m for 2 years. Now Chicago doesn't have to negotiate for a contract they can't afford and lose Panarin for pennies on the dollar.

There's your reason why Chicago got rid of him.

 

[TheTakedown]

Karlsson and Panarin, then Seguin.

In order of talent level, IMO

 

[Tawnos]

Saad was a better fit because of his contract, not because of what he does on the ice. His 6m AAV deal runs 2 more year compared to Panarin, which means Chicago doesn't have to negotiate this season for an extension, for money they don't have (well, cap space).

Saad was also a better fit because Toews didn’t have anyone he liked playing with.

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

They didn't have capspace because they signed Toews to a brutal contract. And Panarin is outstanding defensively

Outstanding defensively? He doesn't even kill penalties. If they really thought highly of him they would have found cap space for him.

 

[Kovalev27]

Seguin most likely stays in Dallas

But we should be going all in on Karlsson and Panarin game breaking talents

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Outstanding defensively? He doesn't even kill penalties. If they really thought highly of him they would have found cap space for him.

You don't have to be great defensively to kill penalties. You usually don't want your best players doing this anyway.

They didn't move him because of their cap situation, they moved him because Toews and Kane missed their buddy.

 

[Roo Returns]

Seguin is easily the player to go for over the other AINEC. RH shot #1 center that is going to be 27 and will score 30+ goals every year.

C'mon gang you win with strength down the middle. Seguin and some combo of the kids on ELC and Ziba locked up long term. That makes the Rangers a very, very dangerous team as soon as next season.

Where is all of this Seguin will probably stay in Dallas stuff coming from? Links? Quotes? Vetted sources? The kid is extremely competitive and if Dallas has another down year (they're a bubble team with that D unless Khubodin channels his inner Raanta) it basically becomes another situation like Tavares. He already has a Cup and has been an Allstar. To be the centerpiece of an original six team with basically the entire team on ELCs and just entering their prime?

 

[Harbour Dog]

Not sure I want Panarin, there is a reason Chicago got rid of him. Also he is soft and weak and not good defensively

First of all, he isn't bad defensively, but...

Panarin - 82 points
2nd (Jones) - 57 points
3rd (PLD) - 48 points

... I wouldn't give a f*** if he was bad defensively. Give him a lawn chair and a paperback for when the puck comes back to our end for all I care. He's clearly a premiere offensive force in the league.