Player Discussion Karl Alzner: He Left and They Won

[Lafleurs Guy]

Fair point if every other thread wasn’t polluted with Alzner references. Its a bad deal, we get it, one of literally hundreds.

If you don't want to read about Karl Alzner... don't come to the Karl Alzner thread!

 

[LyricalLyricist]

I’m no GM but we’ve seen tones of these physical defensive d men fall off a cliff at 30.

It makes you wonder why anyone bothers signing them with good term.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Once again. Alzner was signed to replace EMELIN , not Markov.

Yet, it's Markov's place he took on the depth chart, no matter how you want to spin it.

 

[ECWHSWI]

Once again. Alzner was signed to replace EMELIN , not Markov.

so, to replace Emelin, a D not protected for the expansion, Bergevin signed a 4.6M D for 5 years ??

 

[TT1]

Alzner looks early 40s imo

 

[Asamu]

Right I forgot. We simply didn't have any plan to replace Markov at all...

The plan to replace Markov was Mikhail Sergachev in exchange of Jonathan Drouin (We got him because we couldn't sign Radulov in the first place) =(. If we compare only the stats of Alzner with Washington, we can conclude that he was a great asset to the team while competing against the best lines in the league and prooved that he was a top 4 just like Emelin. I wish him good luck with the Habs or elsewhere but the times has come to let some young bloods show what they can do.

 

[BLONG7]

so, to replace Emelin, a D not protected for the expansion, Bergevin signed a 4.6M D for 5 years ??

This is now known, as The Summer of Incompetance...The entire summer.

 

[Tyson]

In an era of speed and puck moving let’s sign a guy who can’t skate or move the puck. Sounds like Bergevin logic

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

The plan to replace Markov was Mikhail Sergachev in exchange of Jonathan Drouin (We got him because we couldn't sign Radulov in the first place) =(. If we compare only the stats of Alzner with Washington, we can conclude that he was a great asset to the team while competing against the best lines in the league and prooved that he was a top 4 just like Emelin. I wish him good luck with the Habs or elsewhere but the times has come to let some young bloods show what they can do.

That's the Bergevin special right there.

Anyone who saw him play that season knows Alzner wasn't top 4 material anymore.

 

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

To think that we could have Sergachev + Radulov on the team now and instead we have Drouping on our 3rd and Alzner in Laval.

Sigh...

 

[montreal]

Do you think a vet NHL player really wants to play at AHL level and be surrounded by kids 10 years younger than him everyday ? The guy has already millions $ in his bank account.

who cares what he wants, he's going to make over 11M in the next 3 years, do you know how long it would take the average worker to make that much money? He sucks and is even too slow for the AHL, at his salary and the fact that he likely wouldn't be more then a 7th D, I just can't see any team taking him on unless we retain 50% and throw in say picks or prospects to sweeten the deal which would be stupid on our part.

The best thing would be for him to retire, he doesn't have it any more, it's unlikely he's going to be able to ever be quick enough for today's NHL. So if he gets fed up with riding buses this season, the Habs could do him a solid and give him his 1.5M bonus next summer and then assuming no takers he could retire leaving 5M on the table but I'm sure if he wanted he could land a job as an assistant coach at some level.

 

[Tighthead]

That's the Bergevin special right there.

Anyone who saw him play that season knows Alzner wasn't top 4 material anymore.

Don't forget the justification by a prominent poster that he would be a perfect mentor for Juulsen, so it was a good signing regardless.

 

[LaP]

This is now known, as The Summer of Incompetance...The entire summer.

I would be temped to say prime Emelin would be our 3rd best dman right now.

 

[THE HOFF]

I would be temped to say prime Emelin would be our 3rd best dman right now.

You always need a player that protects the blue line like the old days. He did that with flair and great skating/timing. That weber-emelin pair brought some pain. which way should we go ? nevermind just dump the puck.

 

[ahmedou]

Disturbing he's. Always a minus defenseman when he's on a line. Objectively, I'm trying at the minimum to note positive things. But nothing really I remarked... I feel pity 'bout Alzner the human being. But not way 'bout Alzner the hockey player...

 

[jfhabs]

Le regret de Karl Alzner

Just read this article on Karl Alzner. He basically says he somewhat regrets his contract right now. He still thinks he has a few years left and could play on another team in the nhl. Any chance this contract is mutually ended after his 1.5M signing bonus next summer. He would leave 5M on the table, maybe 3M if he can find a contract at 1M for the 2 following years... he would have cashed in 18.125M on that contract + another 16.4M before that with the caps.

So, you're telling me there's a chance!?!

 

[Dagistitsyn]

Le regret de Karl Alzner

Just read this article on Karl Alzner. He basically says he somewhat regrets his contract right now. He still thinks he has a few years left and could play on another team in the nhl. Any chance this contract is mutually ended after his 1.5M signing bonus next summer. He would leave 5M on the table, maybe 3M if he can find a contract at 1M for the 2 following years... he would have cashed in 18.125M on that contract + another 16.4M before that with the caps.

So, you're telling me there's a chance!?!

He'll end up in the KHL or some other Euro league. No NHL team will play him. Not even the Senaturds.

 

[Deebs]

Le regret de Karl Alzner

Just read this article on Karl Alzner. He basically says he somewhat regrets his contract right now. He still thinks he has a few years left and could play on another team in the nhl. Any chance this contract is mutually ended after his 1.5M signing bonus next summer. He would leave 5M on the table, maybe 3M if he can find a contract at 1M for the 2 following years... he would have cashed in 18.125M on that contract + another 16.4M before that with the caps.

So, you're telling me there's a chance!?!

I think the two parties can agree to terminate the contract... but not positive.

 

[Hacketts]

I wonder if Alzner can somehow be sent to the Jets. It would have to be creative forsure, but if their's one team that is needing help, it's that team.

 

[Tighthead]

I don't see anyone signing 32 year old KA to $1 million for one year let alone 2. He is the 8th D at best on an average corps, and that is with a reputation for great character.

Maybe he bails on the final year after the bonus, maybe he can be jettisoned at 50%.

If he was a UFA this summer best he does is one year, one way at minimum - and that would be a bad signing.

 

[ahmedou]

Send him to the Canadian armed forces or Alaska

 

[xNogaitx]

Le regret de Karl Alzner

Just read this article on Karl Alzner. He basically says he somewhat regrets his contract right now. He still thinks he has a few years left and could play on another team in the nhl. Any chance this contract is mutually ended after his 1.5M signing bonus next summer. He would leave 5M on the table, maybe 3M if he can find a contract at 1M for the 2 following years... he would have cashed in 18.125M on that contract + another 16.4M before that with the caps.

So, you're telling me there's a chance!?!

I mean, I think that will play out after this season's end. His agent is already allowed to talk with other teams. If there is known interest from other teams on July 1st for a 1-2 years contract, he'll probably take it.

But on the other hand, he probably knows that he's getting bought out anyway next summer, so he'll be able to get into free agency regardless.

So the smart move for him will be to let Montreal buy him out. ($4.83M is better than $1.5M).

 

[Habs Halifax]

who cares what he wants, he's going to make over 11M in the next 3 years, do you know how long it would take the average worker to make that much money? He sucks and is even too slow for the AHL, at his salary and the fact that he likely wouldn't be more then a 7th D, I just can't see any team taking him on unless we retain 50% and throw in say picks or prospects to sweeten the deal which would be stupid on our part.

The best thing would be for him to retire, he doesn't have it any more, it's unlikely he's going to be able to ever be quick enough for today's NHL. So if he gets fed up with riding buses this season, the Habs could do him a solid and give him his 1.5M bonus next summer and then assuming no takers he could retire leaving 5M on the table but I'm sure if he wanted he could land a job as an assistant coach at some level.

If he can't even handle the AHL... Send him to the ECHL. He might retire then lol

 

[Tyson]

Alzner needs to come to grips with the fact that he is no longer an NHL player

 

[Tighthead]

Alzner needs to come to grips with the fact that he is no longer an NHL player

That isn't going to do the Habs any good.