Kaprizov vs Kravtsov vs Podkolzin

[deejb]

Who is the most valuable asset?

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[doomscroll]

For their respective NHL teams at this moment, probably Kravtsov.
In a vacuum, Kaprizov.

 

[M2Beezy]

Kravstov AINEC

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Kaprizov or Kravtsov. Podkolzin isn't that far behind, but clearly behind, and it doesn't help that he's the least proven. I would go with Kaprizov because he's a first line winger immediately. Kravtsov still has to prove that he can get to that level, but he probably will, and the upside is likely similar.

 

[AKL]

It’s Kaprizov until either of the other two give any indication that it should be them.

 

[Machinehead]

It’s Kaprizov until either of the other two give any indication that it should be them.

Kravtsov is already close to the NHL at 19 and his 18 year old season was better.

I know development isn't linear and all that and there's certainly an argument for Kaprizov, but at the very least, it's unfair to say that Kravtsov has given no indication of a being a better prospect.

 

[AKL]

Kravtsov is already close to the NHL at 19 and his 18 year old season was better.

I know development isn't linear and all that and there's certainly an argument for Kaprizov, but at the very least, it's unfair to say that Kravtsov has given no indication of a being a better prospect.

Kravtsov’s 8 goals and 21 points in 50 KHL is better than Kaprizov’s 11 goals and 27 points in 53 KHL games?

That’s interesting.

It’s Kaprizov until one of the other two give an indication that it’s either of them.

 

[Machinehead]

Kravtsov’s 8 goals and 21 points in 50 KHL is better than Kaprizov’s 11 goals and 27 points in 53 KHL games?

That’s interesting.

It’s Kaprizov until one of the other two give an indication that it’s either of them.

With 21 points in 50 games, Kravtsov was a close second on his team in PPG.

He was asked to carry one of the most offensively inept teams in pro hockey history at 18.

 

[AKL]

With 21 points in 50 games, Kravtsov was a close second on his team in PPG.

He was asked to carry one of the most offensively inept teams in pro hockey history at 18.

Sorry, do you think Kaprizov was getting top line minutes with CSKA during his campaign? Metallurg finished dead last in the standings and scored the fifth least amount of goals.

It’s Kaprizov.

 

[Machinehead]

Sorry, do you think Kaprizov was getting top line minutes with CSKA during his campaign? Metallurg finished dead last in the standings and scored the fifth least amount of goals.

It’s Kaprizov.

They were a better offensive team than the team Kravtsov was just on, as are most junior teams.

 

[koyvoo]

Kravtsov
Kaprizov
Podkolzin

 

[AKL]

They were a better offensive team than the team Kravtsov was just on, as are most junior teams.

Man, it’s still Kaprizov. His team scoring 20 more goals than Kravtsov’s doesn’t take away from the fact that Kaprizov was, and is, a better player.

Because not only did Kaprizov outscore him at that same age, but he went on to take multiple huge steps forward, and is now one of the best players not in the NHL. The only argument for Kravtsov at this point is “he’s younger, so maybe he’ll also do what Kaprizov has already done with improving, but do it better.”

 

[EdJovanovski]

Kravtsov

 

[ViD]

At this point Kaprizov is better than the other two combined

 

[Regal]

Man, it’s still Kaprizov. His team scoring 20 more goals than Kravtsov’s doesn’t take away from the fact that Kaprizov was, and is, a better player.

Because not only did Kaprizov outscore him at that same age, but he went on to take multiple huge steps forward, and is now one of the best players not in the NHL. The only argument for Kravtsov at this point is “he’s younger, so maybe he’ll also do what Kaprizov has already done with improving, but do it better.”

What's the current situation for Kaprizov coming over? Is it still likely next year? I agree he's the most valuable player in a vacuum but he needs to be in the NHL for that to be realized.

 

[Khomutov]

Kaprizov

 

[Fugazy]

Kravtsov
Kaprizov
Podkolzin

 

[Bazeek]

What's the current situation for Kaprizov coming over? Is it still likely next year? I agree he's the most valuable player in a vacuum but he needs to be in the NHL for that to be realized.

All signs currently point to him playing in Minnesota next year.

 

[ThatGuy22]

Man, it’s still Kaprizov. His team scoring 20 more goals than Kravtsov’s doesn’t take away from the fact that Kaprizov was, and is, a better player.

Because not only did Kaprizov outscore him at that same age, but he went on to take multiple huge steps forward, and is now one of the best players not in the NHL. The only argument for Kravtsov at this point is “he’s younger, so maybe he’ll also do what Kaprizov has already done with improving, but do it better.”

As a Wild fan like yourself, him being younger isn't the only argument.

The question who has more value (not who is the better player). It's not out of the question to suggest a recent top 10 pick, who has signed their ELC and is under an NHL contract may have more value than a better player, who has not signed on the dotted line, has never met our GM , and plays for the richest team in the KHL who already managed to extend him once with the option of NHL paychecks coming within a year.

We all hope what we hear coming from is Agent is true, and he does plan on coming next year (or maybe even this year if the Wild make playoffs and CSKA gets eliminated early). But until it happens, the uncertainty impacts his value.

 

[Connor McConnor]

Kaprizov is better but Kravstov probably more valuable which is hard to explain.