Kap or A-Jo?

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Kapanen vs Johnsson

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  1. kb

    kb Registered User

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    Brown goes first.
     
  2. Pookie

    Pookie It was a pleasure doing business with you

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    Nope. I wouldn't trade either. Young is what we need.

    Zaitsev or Kadri would be my counter.
     
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    Same here

    Nylander or Marleau to play center on the 3 Rd line
     
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  4. HamiltonNHL

    HamiltonNHL Parity era hockey is just luck

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    Kapanan - love him more.
    Johnsson - our only Left wing.

    For team building, each shift requires a LW. So you'd have to keep Johnsson in the No Trade NHL.
     
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    I'd keep both, and push Hyman to the 3rd line.
     
  6. MarnerPeachFuzz

    MarnerPeachFuzz Go Leafs Go

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    I like both....I'll take Kapanen though
     
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    They are probably pretty close as players, KK is younger but also plays on our deepest position which is also the one where we have a legit prospect coming up. However, there's an easy solution to that. Play Kapanen on the left side.

    I'd describe our forward depths just from a roster and cap management perspective like this:
    Matthews - Not going anywhere
    Marner - Not going anywhere
    Tavares - Not going anywhere

    Nylander - Most likely not going anywhere, unless for huge overpayment or cap issues
    Kadri - Too valuable per cap dollar to move

    Kapanen - High-end player that is still cheap, goal will be to keep for as long as possible
    Johnsson - High-end player that is still cheap, goal will be to keep for as long as possible
    Hyman - Appropriately paid player who seem very valued on and off the ice

    Moore - Cheap good depth with long-term control
    Bracco - Legitimate prospect, and our only one so unlikely to move for that reason

    Ennis - Cheap good depth
    Gauthier - Cheap depth
    Lindholm - Cheap depth
    Any longshot prospect like Timashov, Korshkov, or Brooks

    Brown - Too much cap too close to replacement level for a team in our position

    Marleau - Not going to be moved, despite how much of a cap relief it would mean
     
  8. ACC1224

    ACC1224 Keeping it real, someone has to.

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    Keep both move Nylander.
     
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    Excellent summary. Would only add that our lack of depth at centre is another reason Kadri won't be moved and I'm hoping they have something worked out with Marleau allowing us to move him. Other than that though, this is a perfect summary of the current state of affairs.
     
  10. HamiltonNHL

    HamiltonNHL Parity era hockey is just luck

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    There must be a lot of cheap left wingers out there.
     
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    Too much emphasis on LW or RW to me. Wingers play their off-wing when needed and is not as big a deal as on D imo. Kapanen is the better overall prospect to me.
     
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    Your post is dumb considering willy is coming back to form and has been absolutely dynamite. He is a better player than both. And making stupid names like benchlander is not only idiotic, but unless you are a 10 yr old, it is highly unoriginal and says more about your wit than anything else.
     
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  13. A1LeafNation

    A1LeafNation Our time! Our time!

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    Of our core moving forward, Marleau and Kadri should be moved before Nylander.

    In a few years:

    Johnsson Matthews Bracco
    Hyman Tavares Marner
    Moore Nylander Kapanen
     
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    Agreed that those are better but I think its a false premise to suggest "Melander" is good. I think hfboards posters just need to stop coming up with "clever" nick names, they're really bad at it.

    Also I'm surprised some posters are still sticking to their guns on Kap being better than Nylander, its always been a bad opinion and now that Nylander's found his groove again I thought they'd be in hiding.
     
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    HamiltonNHL Parity era hockey is just luck

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    There must be some stats on this. Players very likely to underperform when playing on the wrong side.

    Handedness matters. Especially in today's NHL where players shelter the puck with their body.

    With so many left shot players in the NHL, it is hard to understand why our LW depth is so bad.
     
  16. ER89

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    The amount of people who say nylander smh. Dude's contract is going to be a steal especially the way the current RFA signings are going. :loony:
     
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    zeke The Dube Abides

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    Leafs can't afford to lose any of their good forwards.

    hell, we already have Marleau, Hyman, and Brown in our top-9 as is. That's not good.
     
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    There is also advantages to playing your off-side as a winger. Pucks around the boards in your end are handled on the forehand. Blade of stick is to the inside when on offence making it easier to except passes for release to the net. Big issue, is passing is more from your backhand which is the biggest adjustment. Not sure what stats there are, but many goal scorers have played their off-wing. Ovie for one prefer his off wing.
     
  19. Gary Nylund

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    I'm thoroughly amazed that anyone would have a problem with Hyman in the top 6 at this point, never mind the top 9.
     
  20. Maple Leafs

    Maple Leafs Toronto

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    They would be in "every" team top 9 and every team has fans that think certain players shouldn't be in their top 9
     
  21. zeke

    zeke The Dube Abides

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    not tampa's.
     
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    Marleau has a NMC and Kadri has one of the better contracts.
    Moving Nylander at his cap hit would have the biggest effect.
     
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    Johnnson like Brown are 2 CAP hits
     
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    Both to our cap and the return.
     
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    Community 44 is Rielly good

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    Move Zaitsev, Marleau, and Brown before them. Sign then to cap friendly deals if possible or bridge them for 2-3 years so we can keep them and still be fine cap-wise. These two + Kadri give us scoring depth. If we lose 1 or both of them we lose significant scoring depth and our prospect pool is limited on immediate forward scoring help after Bracco (and its a gamble to say he could successfully step in to a top 9 offensive role).


    These guys are also prime examples of a bridge deal or low cap hit deals due to their relatively unimpressive production to date (despite good upside).
     

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