Discussion in 'Fugu's Business of Hockey Forum' started by Melrose Munch, May 8, 2011.
Well, at least they're accepting a relatively long timetable for their goals.
KC should take a number. I'd rather Winnipeg and Quebec get their teams back first. A shame Hartford will never see the NHL again, too
You know full well Bettman would rather that than Canada.`
Which is why I hate Bettman. He'd rather put a team in a cornfield with people who'd rather watch paint dry than in a small city full of rabid fans. The direction the nhl has taken in the last 15 years= nosedive.
It will never be as good as it was in the 80's and early 90's again. Thankfully, I have those memories. Regretfully, I have those memories and can see the nosedive things have taken. Oh well, such is life.
Truthfully. The NHL wants to bee seen as big league and Winnipeg and QC won't help them. Toronto Might.
Winnipeg and QC - minor league cities
Deal with it.
The NHL is Big League already. Look at value of many teams and the player salaries. And the average cost of tickets.
Which is only 3/4 of even the NBA. And they have problems.
Raleigh and Nashville are/were not really big league cities either before they got teams.
As opposed to Kansas City?
Which has 2.1 million people. 2.6 within 45 minutes. Winnioeg won't draw in the US, as all the Canadian teams don't
Kansas City has an NFL team and a MLB team. Pretty sure those are the 2 biggest leagues on this continent. Also, they have an NHL ready stadium. What's Winnipeg or QC got for me??
Toronto and Montreal have no problems drawing in the U.S. - are they not being counted as Canadian teams?
Ok well except those two.
you know, I don't buy my season tickets based on who the Pens play. I buy them because I want to see my team play. If a team has to rely on the draw to get fans in the seats, then perhaps you shouldn't go into that area in the first place....
We are in minority.
There are only a handful of sports teams in America that can be abysmal and still draw fairly well, in all leagues. Not just the NHL.
So I guess Pittsburgh is not a good market then. Because when they had no talent the market did not draw at all.
No, I'd say that Winnipeg and Quebec City will get teams again in the 21st Century.
Kansas City isn't exactly a great market. I mean it's not that great a market for hockey to begin with and then you already have the Chiefs and the Royals, the latter being perpetually around the bottom of baseball attendance and revenue figures, essentially a team that would have long moved if not for generous MLB revenue-sharing.
This seems to be purely driven by the need to fill an arena with a tenant.
This is true. The Kansas City Scouts were drawing 6000-8000 per game during there 2yrs playing there back in the mid-70's, winning less than 30 games out of app. 160+. Instant death for any team, let alone an expansion franchise brand new to the market. So we should base our judgment on that sorry episode?. Dont think so. People also point to the lackluster attendance for the Islanders' exhibition games. Hello?. "Exhibition?". The New York Islanders?. Like, who cares?. You have Don Cherry spouting off on HNIC that "Kansas City is a hockey graveyard", picked up & replayed over & over again, so I guess it must be true huh?.
Kansas City Kansas & Kansas City Missouri has a population of 2.5+M, a largish & impressive array of corporate head and sattelite offices; a now 4 year old stunningly beautiful state of the art arena in its downtown core and arena managers who know what their doing. The citys ranked 6 or 7 as "Best Place to Live" in America; has an excellent LRT system, great demographics. Pittsburgh very nearly moved there; Boots' surely wouldve' tried it on with the Predators had he not gotten caught; Charles Wang may yet relo the Islanders to KC if Lighthouse craters & he cant do a deal in Brooklyn; while teams like the Panthers & Coyotes may yet wind up playing out of the Sprint if an ownership group shows up with the bread & brass to make a go of it. Dont count them out by a longshot.
KC is big league? More like Toto and aunty Emm.
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