Prospect Info: K'Andre Miller (D) - Part III

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  1. Amazing Kreiderman @StatBoy_Steven Sponsor

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    At the end of the day, we have IMO 5 legit candidates to fill our left side on defense in 2-3 years in Jones, Lindgren, Miller, Reunanen and Robertson.
     
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    it likely has to wait another year until cap space frees up...but looking at that list, I'm thinking that if we can add a LHD version of trouba (ie 24-26 year old veteran) to that mix of kids like we did on the right side, then our blueline will be really good for a long time
     
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    Ideally, we trade DeAngelo for a LHD of the same caliber (Werenski/Provorov)
     
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    I struggle with the idea of this cause I really really really like DeAngelo....but don't dislike the concept behind that type of move.
     
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    I only trade DeAngelo in a 1-for-1 trade.
     
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    That is the only real way that a DeAngelo trade makes any kind of sense. Players like that or a Theodore.
     
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    Agreed. Anything beyond that gets too complicated
     
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    Well, it's more because we are no longer in that position where we need quantity over quality. A 1-for-1 trade that helps both teams is ideal. It has to be a trade that hurts for both teams, so to speak.
     
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    That is exactly right. Both fanbases will wince. With what DeAngelo is becoming trading him for prospects makes no sense. Nor do I believe that Gorton is in the business of trading for pure futures anymore. And trading him for several good forwards as opposed to a top player does not make much sense either.
     
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    Players I want in return for DeAngelo in a 1-for-1 trade:

    Klingberg
    Connor
    Konecny
    Hintz
    Boeser
    Barzal
    Tkachuk
    Werenski
    Provorov

    Someone along the lines of that caliber.
     
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    You keep leaving Theodore out and I keep putting him back in, AK. Have something against him?
     
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    No man. I love Theodore! I'm a T-birds fan. He's one of my favourites.
     
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    I don’t know about Klingberg. He’s a righty and I think DeAngelo brings something that he doesn’t, along with probably pacing him in points from here on out. The rest of the list is good, but I’d rather limit it to a LD because that’s the most glaring need we have.

    Klingberg will be 28 in a month and put up 77 points in his last 122 games. DeAngelo is 24 and put up 83 in his last 129, and to me, DeAngelo brings a lot more energy and fire.
     
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    He was a forward most of his life until 2015-2016 when he moved to the blue line. So, in terms of years playing defense, he's behind the other guys.
     
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    Yeah, I was just naming players to explain the range I would look for in terms of the return. Not necessarily those players
     
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    I keep DeAngelo. Too unique and valuable of an asset. If he comes in at a Pietrangelo like contract (currently signed, not the UFA to be), he's a steal.

    Add in the fact that you have some bite on the backend, which Tony D adds to... you've got a stud. If Miller pans out, and has some snarl to his game, then it's an even fiery group.

    The shifts with Tony D and Fox at the same time were just dominance out there with the puck, the Rangers totally owned the play. Maybe that's a consistent thing with Nils at some point.
     
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    I do not think that we are proposing to trade him. I certainly am not I only said what kind of players it would take if it HAD to be done. And a similarly aged and trajectoried LD is the only thing that makes sense.
     
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    If trading with WPG I would rather get their W who is a better player, on a better contract, and has a lesser reputation.
     
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    yeah I don't want to trade him at all...but the idea of trading from an area of strength to fill a need that makes the team better overall is an idea I can get behind. it doesn't need to be tony but that right now is an area of strength.

    and thats why its important to state that its a 1 for 1 trade....whether its for a LHD or a center or whatever you are looking to get an equal caliber player at a different position, not trying to get rid of a guy.
     
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    Hintz isn't on the same level as the other guys. I like him, but let's pump the breaks here.
     
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    To me K'Andre's biggest shortcoming is decision making with the puck. If I were to place his upside on the following scale:

    1. S. Jones
    2. Parayko
    3. Ekholm
    4. J. Manson

    I would say he ends up a shade below Parayko, and a shade above Ekholm. Provided he makes sound plays with the puck. We're talking banks of the boards, or holding the puck protecting from the first checker, and making the easy pass.

    Key plays his best when he can dictate the pace of play with the puck or defend against a higher paced player.

    The other thing he needs to work on is being a monster PKer.

    He's not afraid to block a shot, he's not afraid to hit. If he becomes a guy who is proactively dishing it out, with a couple of KOs in a fight or two, you are talking about a very top end asset.
     
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    you say that like its a negative....if he falls somewhere between parayko and ekholm that would be amazing
     
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    I think this fanbase is setting itself up for disappointment, expecting Miller to be almost Leetch-level.

    Comments like these are great.
     
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    If it was a sure thing, I have to imagine most people would be ecstatic if Miller turned into Ekholm
     
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    He's probably going to end up like John Moore

    /ducks
     
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