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Okay I agree with you, Kerfoot will have a better 5v5 points/60 than Marner/Tavares/Nylander/Matthews
They won't if you factor in QoC
Okay I agree with you, Kerfoot will have a better 5v5 points/60 than Marner/Tavares/Nylander/Matthews
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They won't if you factor in QoC
So far, Kerfoot has pretty much done more with less. It's still very early, but so far this looks very good for a secondary piece in the trade.
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Just one question before we end it off, have you really never seen/heard about on-ice sh% and/or PDO?
I like Kerfoot better as a player. I don't feel like he is going to lose his cool at any moment and do something dumb to hurt his team.
It's irrelevant to the stats I pointed out and the references to Kerfoots play and on ice style/behavior because your granula advance statwanking obsession of 5v5 has literally nothing to do with my argument.
Kerfoot seems to be a better puckhound.
Better motor.
And clearly finding success as a Leaf on the 3rd line, heck hes making more Impact than Mango,Kap and Nylander currently.
Kadri albeit with major recency Bias, has lost his skating acumen, his puck handling and his shot went down hill after he got married.
Last season he was a passenger 90% of the season and when he was delegated as a shutdown guy for Bergeron line 2 seasons ago, he crapped that assignement and we had to be saved by turtleneck Pleks.
Kerfoot so far... for Modern Leafs.
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Just one question before we end it off, have you really never seen/heard about on-ice sh% and/or PDO?
Kerfoot's QoC isn't changing, nor is Tavares/Marner/Matthews/Nylander's QoC. So what do you mean by factor in QoC? That's a constant. The only thing that can change is their production rate, and 5v5 on-ice sh% tells us that Tavares/Marner have had a very low 5v5 oish% (will rise soon) and that the Mikheyev/Kerfoot have had a very high 5v5 oish% (will drop soon). It's silly to assume Mikheyev/Kerfoot will continue to lead the team in 5v5 production rates.
First line players face higher QoC, so it's harder to generate points.
linemates and PP opportunity significantly impact offensive production. I don't think QoC has much of an impactFirst line players face higher QoC, so it's harder to generate points.
What the hell is a modern Leaf? Do you mean run and gun and soft with weak defense? There is nothing modern about that.
The sum of the whole is greater than the parts.
This team acquiring Kerfoot and with inked contracts to AJ, Kapanen, Marner, etc etc is stronger than it would have been if keeping Kadri meant losing one of the above.
And call it what it is.
Kadri was a good regular season contributor.
He was a massive playoff failure.
He played 6 out of 14 playoff games in two years. And really only a generous 4 games in a 2/3C role. He lost his job to Plekanec when he returned after the first suspension.
He will not be missed in the postseason as you can’t miss what you never had.
Okay gotcha, you don't know what on-ice sh% is. PM me if you want to learn about it.
OK do a defensive lineup without Barrie and Ceci, and with Kadri. All within the salary cap.He wasn’t the secondary piece in the trade for starters. It was about moving away from Gardiner and replacing him at a cost efficient cap hit offensively and getting a younger cheaper third line center that looks like a 50 points and 15-20 goal player that wins draws and skates a bit better and fits the role cheaper for longer.
Kerfoot has the contract not Barrie. Barrie is a rental and not working out particularly well under The Babcock so far. Kerfoot was the main piece! Kadri is the better player and cheaper had they simply moved him to top 6 winger because Kerfoot and Barrie are costing us more right now.$6,250,000 where Kadri was only$4,500,000. Plus we gave up a third and recieved a sixth i believe.
All the cap hit bantering on here over Willy,Matthews and Marner diverted from attention being paid to this trade. I don’t particularly like this deal with Colorado more so than what our core guys got on contract actually.
It would be safe to say that with the emergence of korsh,Timashov,Moore,Goat,Sandin,Lilly,Soupie and others that we could have put together a nice top six/ bottom six without this deal ever happening. I think assets can be managed by moving Barrie and Ceci even before the deadline without worrying to much about deteriorating the competitive balance of the team.
Kadri/Tavares/ Marner
Soupie/Matthews/Nylander could have been our top six for cheaper if we had not done the deal.
Also Willy and Kadri are both better scoring utility centers if injury occured and offered better flexability to the lineup card and cap hit.
I don’t like the deal
OK do a defensive lineup without Barrie and Ceci, and with Kadri. All within the salary cap.
Kerfoot hasn't been that great. He's been OK.