Confirmed with Link: Kadri Suspended 3 Games

[Kingstonian84*]

It only merited a minor on the ice.

If it was a real injury, and not simply to enhance the penalty, it's just because it was an unfortunate/unlucky landing.

Take your homnerism glasses bud, he didn't embelish the injury! If you were watching you'd see Backstrom stayed in the game several minutes after the incident and even after the powerplay, he left because he clearly had some type of head injury there was no faking it or embelishing on his part.

I guess Riemer faked his injury too a few years ago by your standards then too right?

 

[BertCorbeau]

Did you see Back commit with his stick lunging forward? It's an unfortunate collision and certainly interference but outside that was nothing sinister.

I'm with you on this remedial ... However, Kadri's follow through with the elbow made the play look bad (and is likely what he'll be suspended for) ... Had he kept his elbow in he might have avoided the likely suspension

Had he also tried to make an attempt to avoid him in some capacity that would have helped .. Even just trying to roll off ... But he didn't - rather he just went through him .. And that will always be called

 

[Mess]

The match penalty for the hit on Granlund was an absolute joke, and certainly doesn't warrant a suspension.

The penalty for the hit on Backstrom was sufficient punishment for the infraction.

Considering that Kadri is a first time offender, he really shouldn't get anything beyond a slap on the wrist for his actions last night.

The Backstrom hit was the one that should have gotten Kadri tossed from the game rather than the Granlund one. IMO

Nazem's elbow made contact with Backstrom's head, forcing him out of the game due to injury.

The second call seemed more like a make-up call for the first event by the Refs.

 

[Kingstonian84*]

The Backstrom hit was the one that should have gotten Kadri tossed from the game rather than the Granlund one. IMO

Nazem's elbow made contact with Backstrom's head, forcing him out of the game due to injury.

Agreed with that! Actually they were just going to give Kadri a minor on the Gradlund hit, then after he mouthed off in the box he was escorted out of the game. Kadri really has some growing up to do on and off the ice if he wants to survive in the NHL, surprised nobody jumped the clown for what he did out there.

 

[thewave]

I'm with you on this remedial ... However, Kadri's follow through with the elbow made the play look bad (and is likely what he'll be suspended for) ... Had he kept his elbow in he might have avoided the likely suspension

Had he also tried to make an attempt to avoid him in some capacity that would have helped .. Even just trying to roll off ... But he didn't - rather he just went through him .. And that will always be called

I honestly feel the alternatives that Kadri had would have lead to worse outcomes. Body on head = concussion + leg etc, diving aside knee is much harder than that arm. Really I feel he knew he was going to hit, his trajectory was directly into him. He did move his body 45 and used his arm to deflect himself off.

If he intended this he would have went straight in.

 

[Fabs]

He'll get a couple games for the Backstrom headshot. The hit on Granlund wasn't all that bad, but it'll factor into Shanahan's decision I bet.

 

[Wami]

The choice to not make any attempt to avoid the blue paint, coupled with the extension of the elbow, in addition to the injury, is what will dictate the 2 game suspension. I will be shocked if he gets off scott free. The elbow extension seals the deal.

 

[Kingstonian84*]

He'll get a couple games for the Backstrom headshot. The hit on Granlund wasn't all that bad, but it'll factor into Shanahan's decision I bet.

I honestly don't know if he gets anything for the Backstrom hit, I mean Gionta and Lucic got nothing for their hits on Reimer/Miller so why would Kadri get anything? I do think he gets 1-3 games for launching himself against Gradlund though.

 

[Duke Silver]

Agreed with that! Actually they were just going to give Kadri a minor on the Gradlund hit, then after he mouthed off in the box he was escorted out of the game. Kadri really has some growing up to do on and off the ice if he wants to survive in the NHL, surprised nobody jumped the clown for what he did out there.

You have called Kadri every name under the sun over the last 15+ hours. Weasel, clown, etc. What the hell is your problem with him?

Looks to me like you're just jumping on the opportunity to bash him. Unless you honestly believe it was his intent to hurt Backstrom, which is laughable, he's merely the victim of circumstance, not an axe murderer.

Chill out and knock off the incendiary remarks about him.

 

[Kingstonian84*]

You have called Kadri every name under the sun over the last 15+ hours. Weasel, clown, etc. What the hell is your problem with him?

Looks to me like you're just jumping on the opportunity to bash him. Unless you honestly believe it was his intent to hurt Backstrom, which is laughable, he's merely the victim of circumstance, not an axe murderer.

Chill out and knock off the incendiary remarks about him.

My problem with him isn't so much as him as a player it was his disgusting actions last night, I cannot stand dirty players and that is what he was last night so yea I'm gonna call him on it. A victim of circumstance? No, how about he's responsible for his actions he could have chose to not run the goalie, he could have chose to not go for Gradlund's head, sorry but that's on him and him alone.

 

[Alerion]

1 game for each separate head hit wouldn't be a bad guess.

I'd be fine with two games total but there's no way he should get anything for the Granlund hit. Dude was standing by the boards staring at the ice, he has to know better than to put himself in that position.

The Backstrom hit on the other hand was disgusting, you can't pull that **** and Kadri deserves a couple games for it.

 

[On-the-Fly]

Disciplinary hearing set for 1pm today.

TSN says it is for the Backstrom hit. No mention of the Granlund hit. Safe to assume he's been penalized as harshly as he will be for that hit?

 

[p.l.f.]

I'll say 2 games

 

[Duke Silver]

The choice to not make any attempt to avoid the blue paint, coupled with the extension of the elbow, in addition to the injury, is what will dictate the 2 game suspension. I will be shocked if he gets off scott free. The elbow extension seals the deal.

What extension of the elbow?

Moment of Impact (Elbow tucked to body)


Post Impact 1 (Notice that his elbow is still tucked and there is no contact currently being made with Backstrom's mask)


Post Impact 2 (Follow through, none of which made contact with Backstrom's head)


Looks worse than it is.

 

[Goonface2k14]

My take on Kadri vs. Backstrom:

Kadri was fixated on the puck as it was shot from the point, tried to tip it and then didn’t realize how close he was to Backstrom when he turned towards the net. When he did realize how close he was, he went on instinct, and his arms flailing was more of a flop action than an elbow directed at Backstrom. Slow it down, you’ll see how animated he gets after making contact with Backstrom. That’s instinct for a lot of players when they make incidental, unexpected contact with another player. Problem here is, it was a goalie, not a skater. And regardless of intent, it was reckless play, and he deserves to be suspended for it. Players need to be aware of their surroundings, especially when close to the crease.

My take on Kadri vs. Granlund:

This was more Granlund’s fault for not having his head up. I don’t think Kadri left his feet, but that’s perhaps debatable. Definitely didn’t deserve a match penalty for it though. And remember, one of the refs, Trent Knorr, was working his first NHL game. I'm wondering if it was his decision to give Kadri the 5 mins and game.

 

[Kingstonian84*]

What extension of the elbow?

Moment of Impact (Elbow tucked to body)


Post Impact 1 (Notice that his elbow is still tucked and there is no contact currently being made with Backstrom's mask)


Post Impact 2 (Follow through, none of which made contact with Backstrom's head)


Looks worse than it is.

Are you really trying to justify it? Ask yourself this would you be saying the same thing if it was Bernier that was run last night by Parise? Time to be honest here.

 

[thewave]

What extension of the elbow?

Moment of Impact (Elbow tucked to body)


Post Impact 1 (Notice that his elbow is still tucked and there is no contact currently being made with Backstrom's mask)


Post Impact 2 (Follow through, none of which made contact with Backstrom's head)


Looks worse than it is.

See that's why I loathe much of fanbase, this is what I am talking about.

 

[Community]

confirmed match penalty has been revoked, and the hearing at 1pm is for Backstrom contact. (don't call it a hit Backstrom it was basically both guys running into each other.

The problem I have with this hit is that Kadri got his hands up into Backstrom (elbow or shove, either way it's not good).

The one thing Kadri has in his favour is that Backstrom was moving out of the crease, Kadri probably could have gotten around him if Backstrom was still in the blue ice. That's pretty much Kadri's only argument.

Basically, the way he hit Backstrom was dumb, but he could argue that they made contact because Backstrom moving towards him too.

Edit: By the time he turned around, I bet he didn't even have time to react to Backstrom being right there TBH.

 

[thewave]

If it happened to one of our own I would be pissed and want the guy dummied up but, it's not a suspension. When you really watch it from different angles it makes more sense, it was an accident.

 

[Duke Silver]

My problem with him isn't so much as him as a player it was his disgusting actions last night, I cannot stand dirty players and that is what he was last night so yea I'm gonna call him on it. A victim of circumstance? No, how about he's responsible for his actions he could have chose to not run the goalie, he could have chose to not go for Gradlund's head, sorry but that's on him and him alone.

You are definitely looking to jump on him, because your reasoning makes no sense.

Hockey is a game of split-second decisions, he looked up about half a second before he plowed into Backstrom.

If he gets punished for being reckless then I can deal with that, but to say he could have chosen not to run the goalie in that circumstance is laughable. He was driving the net and accidentally hit Backstrom, and it ended badly.

As for the Granlund hit, he clearly leads with his own shoulder and hits Granlund's shoulder first. As he's driving through the body his chest hits Granlund's head. Granlund put himself in a vulnerable position by hunching down like that.

Seems you want to stop Kadri from crashing the net or delivering body checks.

 

[Goonface2k14]

What extension of the elbow?

Moment of Impact (Elbow tucked to body)


Post Impact 1 (Notice that his elbow is still tucked and there is no contact currently being made with Backstrom's mask)


Post Impact 2 (Follow through, none of which made contact with Backstrom's head)


Looks worse than it is.

Fantastic analysis - I did the same on my PVR after the play, and drew similar conclusions. He didn't direct an elbow towards Backstrom whatsoever. He did a cowardly flop move after the fact, which made it look like he was throwing an elbow in real time. Not much to be proud of either, but definitely not as bad as people are making it seem.

Regardless, I say he gets 2 games.

 

[thewave]

The problem I have with this hit is that Kadri got his hands up into Backstrom (elbow or shove, either way it's not good).

The one thing Kadri has in his favour is that Backstrom was moving out of the crease, Kadri probably could have gotten around him if Backstrom was still in the blue ice. That's pretty much Kadri's only argument.

Basically, the way he hit Backstrom was dumb, but he could argue that they made contact because Backstrom moving towards him too.

Edit: By the time he turned around, I bet he didn't even have time to react to Backstrom being right there TBH.

Seriously it was an accident. Anyone saying otherwise is foolish.

 

[Duke Silver]

Are you really trying to justify it? Ask yourself this would you be saying the same thing if it was Bernier that was run last night by Parise? Time to be honest here.

I'd be pissed off that my goaltender got hurt, but if all it deserved was a goaltender interference penalty and no maliciousness seemed apparent, I would be able to understand why it wasn't a suspension.

 

[Guided by Veseys]

The hit looks awful and he'll probably get a game.
That being said, imo it was unintentional. Here's why:
-he doesn't enter the crease until after contact. Backstrom is out of the crease.
-from the back camera view (the one showed the least), he clearly hops with his skates to stay out of the crease. If you think this isn't true then find that replay angle; it's as clear as day. Indisputable.
-I believe he lowered his arms to get his stick down for the puck which was in the crease at moment of contact.
-If contact wasn't made by Backstrom being out of the crease Kadri would not have entered the crease. It was his momentum of trying to quickly shift away from the crease and catching Backstrom at the same time that made things much worse.
-the follow through looks much worse that it is. Anybody is going to outstretch their arms when they are flying thru the air.

He'll still probably get a game though because it looks awful and people who don't look closely at the play are really mad.

 

[Community]

My take on Kadri vs. Backstrom:

Kadri was fixated on the puck as it was shot from the point, tried to tip it and then didn’t realize how close he was to Backstrom when he turned towards the net. When he did realize how close he was, he went on instinct, and his arms flailing was more of a flop action than an elbow directed at Backstrom. Slow it down, you’ll see how animated he gets after making contact with Backstrom. That’s instinct for a lot of players when they make incidental, unexpected contact with another player. Problem here is, it was a goalie, not a skater. And regardless of intent, it was reckless play, and he deserves to be suspended for it. Players need to be aware of their surroundings, especially when close to the crease.

My take on Kadri vs. Granlund:

This was more Granlund’s fault for not having his head up. I don’t think Kadri left his feet, but that’s perhaps debatable. Definitely didn’t deserve a match penalty for it though. And remember, one of the refs, Trent Knorr, was working his first NHL game. I'm wondering if it was his decision to give Kadri the 5 mins and game.

It showed the angle of the ref who called the penalty on the Granlund hit, and it was a horrible angle. There was a player in the way, all you could see was Kadri's skates coming off the ice (after contact) and Granlund's head flinging back... You couldn't see anything in between this because there was another player in the way.