K’Andre Miller vs Noah Dobson

[EdJovanovski]

Who is the better prospect?

K’Andre Miller
17pts in 18 games in NCAA

Noah Dobson
16pts in 28 games in QMJHL

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[The Crypto Guy]

What Miller is doing in the NCAA as a freshman defenseman is pretty much unheard of.

Dobson is also a -30, on pace to end the season as what -75?

 

[Ainec]

Miller

 

[danyhabsfan]

still Dobson for me

 

[LuckyBoeser]

Miller is having a very impressive season, but it's still Dobson for me. I wonder how much better Dobson season would be if he wasn't on a shitty team.

 

[Strait2thecup]

Clearly tying to skew votes with the numbers. Dobson’s look ugly but he’s leading his team in goals and points. They’re awful

 

[EdJovanovski]

Clearly tying to skew votes with the numbers. Dobson’s look ugly but he’s leading his team in goals and points. They’re awful

Miller is also leading his team in points as a freshman defenseman, the season he’s having is definitely more unheard of than what Dobson is doing. Not saying he’s for sure the better prospect but his stock has got to be rising the most significantly of any 2018 draftee

 

[Machinehead]

Miller isn't on a good team either. Leads them in scoring.

 

[TimeZone]

Dobson is playing on one of the worst teams in the entire CHL, so his numbers are certainly not telling the full story on him.

 

[ccman68]

Dobson AINEC

 

[member 157595]

Really like both of these guys. I'm not saying one is better than the other but I'm giving Dobson a bit of a pass due to the team he's on. Imagine going from the Memorial Cup winner to the basement...the penthouse to the (this! is!) outhouse.

 

[Lays]

What Miller is doing in the NCAA as a freshman defenseman is pretty much unheard of.

Dobson is also a -30, on pace to end the season as what -75?

Let’s remember Dobson is on a terrible team. He’s looked very good this year and stats aren’t a good way to evaluate them at all, especially +/-

 

[TheBradyBunch]

Miller isn't on a good team either. Leads them in scoring.

Miller's team is 8-7-3, tied for 1st in their conference. They are surrendering 2.8GPG and scoring 3.16GPG.

Dobson's team is 5-24-1, tied for last place in the league. They are surrendering 4.55GPG and scoring 2.0GPG.

 

[WangMustGo]

Miller's team is 8-7-3, tied for 1st in their conference. They are surrendering 2.8GPG and scoring 3.16GPG.

Dobson's team is 5-24-1, tied for last place in the league. They are surrendering 4.55GPG and scoring 2.0GPG.

Dobson's team is an absolute joke this year. We will see where he is at during the WJC.

 

[Machinehead]

Miller's team is 8-7-3, tied for 1st in their conference. They are surrendering 2.8GPG and scoring 3.16GPG.

Dobson's team is 5-24-1, tied for last place in the league. They are surrendering 4.55GPG and scoring 2.0GPG.

Fair

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Why do we keep comparing our prospects to islander prospects?
I went with the homer pick of K'andre but I liked Dobson a lot more before the draft. As for the better season its def K'andre

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Miller's team is 8-7-3, tied for 1st in their conference. They are surrendering 2.8GPG and scoring 3.16GPG.

Dobson's team is 5-24-1, tied for last place in the league. They are surrendering 4.55GPG and scoring 2.0GPG.

I mean, doesn't that terrible 4.55GPG fall back onto the defensemen a bit....?

Miller is a team best +11, Dobson is a team worst -30. +/- doesn't say everything, but it does mean something.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I mean, doesn't that terrible 4.55GPG fall back onto the defensemen a bit....?

Maybe, but his team is really, really bad.

That isn't on him. As bad as his line may look right now, this is the same player who just ran through the memorial cup a few months ago.

 

[TheBradyBunch]

I mean, doesn't that terrible 4.55GPG fall back onto the defensemen a bit....?

Patrick Roy gave up over 5.5GPG in his 150 game QMJHL career, surely some of that falls on the goaltender, right? He can't be that good...

McDavid was the best player in the league by far last season but his team sucked... he must be at least partially to blame, right?

Nah... it falls on the 19 guys who play each night.

Dobson's team gave up ~2.5GPG last season and he was used nearly as much as he has been this season. They lost arguably their best 10 players besides Dobson, though, and all three of their goalies.

 

[QJL]

Rangers fan here. Still Dobson, but the gap is closing.

 

[TheBradyBunch]

Rangers fan here. Still Dobson, but the gap is closing.

I think you could probably say this about every player drafted ahead of Miller lol. Both players should have gone higher, imo. Seems like a lot of DMen were undervalued... when all is said and done I would not be surprised if all of Hughes, Dobson, Miller, and JBD outperform their draft position. I don't have much of a read on Ty Smith but you could also throw him in there.

Obviously it doesn't fall ALL on him, that's why i said "a bit". He is part of the 19 players who gets blame for the terrible GAA.

And I'm saying no, he's not. If you replace him with almost any other player in the CHL they would be even worse.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Patrick Roy gave up over 5.5GPG in his 150 game QMJHL career, surely some of that falls on the goaltender, right? He can't be that good...

McDavid was the best player in the league by far last season but his team sucked... he must be at least partially to blame, right?

Nah... it falls on the 19 guys who play each night.

Dobson's team gave up ~2.5GPG last season and he was used nearly as much as he has been this season. They lost arguably their best 10 players besides Dobson, though, and all three of their goalies.

Obviously it doesn't fall ALL on him, that's why i said "a bit". He is part of the 19 players who gets blame for the terrible GAA.

 

[SotasicA]

I like that it's a multiple choice poll. Both can get over 50% of the votes.

 

[tony d]

Give me Dobson here.

 

[WangMustGo]

I mean, doesn't that terrible 4.55GPG fall back onto the defensemen a bit....?

Miller is a team best +11, Dobson is a team worst -30. +/- doesn't say everything, but it does mean something.

And if Miller was plying 30 minutes a night on a horrendous team he wouldn't be doing any better. There is a reason Dobson is a lock to be playing top 4 minutes for Canada at the WJC.