Dreger: JVR looking for 6x6 to stay with Leafs

[Liferleafer]

You guys just got nae nae'd, please i only speak FACTS, i know dey way, JVR is NOT A 30 GOAL SCORER

Take a look at this link...pay close attention to the 2013-14 season...


James Van Riemsdyk hockey statistics and profile at hockeydb.com

 

[wc17]

Why not sign him to an 8 year deal at a bit lower amount (maybe 5.5?) and just use the compliance buyout after the next lockout to get out of it?

 

[666]

Yes they should. Not an easy thing to do but the thing to do. Can even resign him in July if they wish, especially if they deal him to a team most likely to use him only as a rental. Assets will beat the cup run loss of a good roster player.

When has a playoff bound team EVER traded their top goal scorer at the deadline?

 

[nickdawg95]

Take a look at this link...pay close attention to the 2013-14 season...


James Van Riemsdyk hockey statistics and profile at hockeydb.com

did you read my last post ? obviously not, he's scored 30 goals once and leaf fans proclaim him as a consistent 30 goal scorer which he is not.

 

[nickdawg95]

2013/14 JVR scored 30, therefore he's a 30 goal scorer, you just got nae nah'd, please I only speak FACTS . Now, if you'd said he doesn't average 30/yr then you'd know dey way.

Trade him before or at the TDL, get the best you can and continue building this team's base of young quality players.

Lol Jvr is not a 30 goal scorer, he's only broke 30 once, get your facts straight leaf fans

that was my post, so yeah i have my facts straight actually, it's leafs fans who don't

 

[Liferleafer]

did you read my last post ? obviously not, he's scored 30 goals once and leaf fans proclaim him as a consistent 30 goal scorer which he is not.

Lol Jvr is not a 30 goal scorer, he's only broke 30 once, get your facts straight leaf fans

that was my post, so yeah i have my facts straight actually, it's leafs fans who don't

Huh, i guess Ray Borque isn't a Stanley Cup winner then....only did it once. Glad you cleared these "facts" up for us.

Listen, we heard the same bullshit when people used to say "JVR isn't a 60 point player...he's only done it once!!"....well, then he did it twice....so the trolls have shifted the old goalposts to goals....have at it.

 

[MSSLYNX]

Loser talk.

Would like to know how it is so. Since you took some of your precious time.

 

[Tim Vezina Thomas]

Is he worth that long of a deal and that money? Eh.

Is it fair based on the market? Definitely. He'll get that very easily IMO.

 

[Liferleafer]

Is he worth that long of a deal and that money? Eh.

Is it fair based on the market? Definitely. He'll get that very easily IMO.

Yup, if he hits the open market, i can see him getting more.

 

[Kelly]

Lol Jvr is not a 30 goal scorer, he's only broke 30 once, get your facts straight leaf fans

that was my post, so yeah i have my facts straight actually, it's leafs fans who don't

JVR has scored 0.36 gpg since coming to toronto, that equals 29.5 goals per 82 each season.

Fact - He's hit 30 goals before
Fact - He's consistently near 30 goals or on pace for, every season.

What a stupid f***ing thing to argue over, good lord.

I mean to be consistent with your idiotic logic -- would you agree Jack Eichel isn't a 60 point player? I mean atleast JVR has hit 30 goals before, Eichel hasn't.

 

[MSSLYNX]

When has a playoff bound team EVER traded their top goal scorer at the deadline?

Probably not happened often. But could it be also that teams usually try to sign their top scorers? Could very well happen with Max P. soon.

All i am saying is IF the leafs decided on not offering him another contract.
Maybe they will or at least are confident they will find a deal both parties like. No need to move him then either now or at the tdl.

Could also be some form of hockey trade.

 

[Liferleafer]

Probably not happened often. But could it be also that teams usually try to sign their top scorers? Could very well happen with Max P. soon.

All i am saying is IF the leafs decided on not offering him another contract.
Maybe they will or at least are confident they will find a deal both parties like. No need to move him then either now or at the tdl.

Could also be some form of hockey trade.

He said playoff bound. The Leafs are not going to trade their 2nd line winger (tied for team lead in goals, 5th in points) unless it's in a deal for an equally impactfull Dman.

 

[BlueBaron]

I think he gets over payment from another NHL team as a free agent. Don't know if he wants to stay with the Leafs, which I would think he does, but that's still a steal because I would imagine he could get 8 years at $7.5M per season from a bad team.

It's a given he wants to stay with the Leafs, read the headline.

I'm with everyone else, I hope we can drop him down a wee bit more but in the end I'd pay 6 and I would front load so he can be moved later on if needed. Save our big splash in FA for the following year when the 3 #1 D are all available.

 

[MSSLYNX]

He said playoff bound. The Leafs are not going to trade their 2nd line winger (tied for team lead in goals, 5th in points) unless it's in a deal for an equally impactfull Dman.

oh yes. My bad. Apologies.

 

[Dog]

Sign and trade for assets. That is what I would do. Has nothing to do with JVR as a player but rather give Leivo/Kapanen ice tine.

 

[Scott Stevens]

Would like to know how it is so. Since you took some of your precious time.

You said you’d rather have assets than have a quality player in James Van Reimsdyk for a playoff run. The only reason that makes sense is you don’t think they can win it all, even with him there.

Loser talk.

 

[MSSLYNX]

You said you’d rather have assets than have a quality player in James Van Reimsdyk for a playoff run. The only reason that makes sense is you don’t think they can win it all, even with him there.

Loser talk.

Perfectly clear. TY.

If the right offer comes along yes, i deal him. I do not believe they win the Cup but believe the assets coming in could (offer still hypothetical) make the Leafs closer to the cup next year and beyond.

Neutral fan. No beef with the Leafs. Had JVR in Philly so i know the guy.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Lol Jvr is not a 30 goal scorer, he's only broke 30 once, get your facts straight leaf fans

that was my post, so yeah i have my facts straight actually, it's leafs fans who don't

Meh, splitting hairs and making an extremely poorly formed argument. Clearly your bias is showing though.

Has he scored 30 in a season before? Yes
For the lockout shortened season, did he score at a 30 goal pace? Yes
Does his scoring pace round to 30 goals for his career in Toronto? Yes
Is he scoring at a 30+ goal pace right now, this season? Yes

Pretty much any reasonable person would be ok with him being called a 30 goal scorer. You're argument looks foolish.

 

[nickdawg95]

Meh, splitting hairs and making an extremely poorly formed argument. Clearly your bias is showing though.

Has he scored 30 in a season before? Yes
For the lockout shortened season, did he score at a 30 goal pace? Yes
Does his scoring pace round to 30 goals for his career in Toronto? Yes
Is he scoring at a 30+ goal pace right now, this season? Yes

Pretty much any reasonable person would be ok with him being called a 30 goal scorer. You're argument looks foolish.

he's scored 30 goals ONCE and you're deeming him a consistent 30 goal scorer... and i look foolish

 

[nickdawg95]

JVR has scored 0.36 gpg since coming to toronto, that equals 29.5 goals per 82 each season.

Fact - He's hit 30 goals before
Fact - He's consistently near 30 goals or on pace for, every season.

What a stupid ****ing thing to argue over, good lord.

I mean to be consistent with your idiotic logic -- would you agree Jack Eichel isn't a 60 point player? I mean atleast JVR has hit 30 goals before, Eichel hasn't.

bottom line. he's scored 30 once, once in 9 seasons. so he's not a consistent 30 goal scorer. what is so hard to understand

 

[nickdawg95]

Huh, i guess Ray Borque isn't a Stanley Cup winner then....only did it once. Glad you cleared these "facts" up for us.

Listen, we heard the same bull**** when people used to say "JVR isn't a 60 point player...he's only done it once!!"....well, then he did it twice....so the trolls have shifted the old goalposts to goals....have at it.

im not trolling, you're playing word games, to fit your argument. he's has not a consistent 30 goal scorer. he's done it once in 9 years,

 

[Pi]

im not trolling, you're playing word games, to fit your argument. he's has not a consistent 30 goal scorer. he's done it once in 9 years,

He's a consistent 29.5 goal scorer if he plays 82 games per season.

Happy?

 

[Dog]

Perfectly clear. TY.

If the right offer comes along yes, i deal him. I do not believe they win the Cup but believe the assets coming in could (offer still hypothetical) make the Leafs closer to the cup next year and beyond.

Neutral fan. No beef with the Leafs. Had JVR in Philly so i know the guy.

Agree that might be one of first times agreed with Flyer fan. Good luck in trying to make the playoffs. Rather see Flyers in then Penguins or Rangers.

 

[seabass45]

I don't get the trolling here but 6x6 is very fair value for a UFA on his level. Unfortunately whoever pays him that will probably regret it, but it's probably a better deal than say... Andrew Ladd's deal.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

he's scored 30 goals ONCE and you're deeming him a consistent 30 goal scorer... and i look foolish

Yep, you look foolish. You are splitting hairs for a guy that's averaged > 29.5 goals / 82 games for his time with the Leafs, has hit 30G before, has hit a 30G pace during the strike shortened season and is on pace for 30G right now. You're taking the term "30G scorer" so literally that you can't see the forest through the trees. Thus, your stance is foolish.

If the guy hit 30 goals once and was averaging 20 goals for the rest of his career, then your point would be good, but in this case, it's close enough that your point isn't a good one.

I'd take that 29.5G scorer on my team any day (I'm a Canes fan) and gladly say he's a 30G scorer and pay him that way.