Justin Turner

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"When M.L.B. Security raised the matter of being on the field with Turner, he emphatically refused to comply.”

Either they hired some mall cops as security or Manfred really didn't give a crap given it was the last game of the year. Like, why didn't they restrain him or try and do a better job?
 

HoweFan

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If someone catches it and dies he should get manslaughter. How’s he gonna feel if a teammates wife or kid dies
 

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Any suspension would be dumb considering Manfreds "history" of doling out punishments.

I would absolutely favor a suspension except for the fact that baseball themselves were complicit in letting him go back out there. They didn't do everything they could have done to enforce their own protocols two nights ago, they shouldn't get to enforce it ex post facto other than perhaps a heavy fine for his part in violating the protocols.
 
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bleedblue1223

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If no one on the field had an issue, then what's the story? I doubt anyone had an issue. Are people just ignoring the fact that he was around the team and playing until the 7th inning. Damage was already done at that point if damage was going to be done.
 

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Yeah the league might want to think about having to explain why the **** he was out there for six innings to begin with, after they were well aware his Monday test was "inconclusive".

Who decided to let him trot out there for Game 6, when his health wasn't confirmed?

When did MLB become aware of the positive test on Tuesday?

What sort of "protocol" was followed that allowed Turner to essentially just walk back onto the field unobstructed?

I mean I still think the reaction to COVID has been a tad overblown, but I can still see how some precautions should obviously be taken.

Still, the MLB clearly dropped the ball here and they're trying like hell to make Turner the scapegoat for their shortcomings.
 

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League is much more responsible than Turner. This is likely the only championship he'll ever win (odds speaking) and you expect him not to celebrate after 3+ months of this? C'mon now. You can't expect him to be the rational one after they allowed him to start and play to begin with.
 

HoweFan

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Why can’t we expect him to be rational? He’s better pray a teammates son or daughter doesn’t succumb to it. He knew he had it, so man up. If he got drunk and drove home should we forgive him for that? What if he killed someone? It was his one World Series so should we overlook it? If people at mlb knew of his test heads should roll
 
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His teammates were on camera saying it was a shame and wrong that Turner wasn't on the field with them. I doubt they had a problem with it. I think this fear porn people are hooked on needs to stop.
 
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Terry Yake

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His teammates were on camera saying it was a shame and wrong that Turner wasn't on the field with them. I doubt they had a problem with it. I think this fear porn people are hooked on needs to stop.
what "fear porn" is that? you mean people shouldn't be concerned with an illness that has killed over 230k americans in 8 months?
 

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what "fear porn" is that? you mean people shouldn't be concerned with an illness that has killed over 230k americans in 8 months?
I think there's a difference between concern and hypochondria. He had no symptoms. The tests were going back and forth between positive and inconclusive. He played most of the game already so everyone was already exposed to him for 8 innings. And at some point, people have agency. If his teammates are fine with it, I don't really care. They were giving him so much crap sitting next to Dave Roberts like Dave Roberts can't take care of himself. And he was wearing his mask most of the time, took it off for some pictures.
 

Terry Yake

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I think there's a difference between concern and hypochondria. He had no symptoms. The tests were going back and forth between positive and inconclusive. He played most of the game already so everyone was already exposed to him for 8 innings. And at some point, people have agency. If his teammates are fine with it, I don't really care. They were giving him so much crap sitting next to Dave Roberts like Dave Roberts can't take care of himself. And he was wearing his mask most of the time, took it off for some pictures.
asymptomatic spread is a thing

either way, what happened is more on MLB than it is on turner. they made it two months without a positive test and then royally screwed it up at the very end. and i think the concern with regards to roberts was that he would be considered higher risk since he had lymphoma
 

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asymptomatic spread is a thing

either way, what happened is more on MLB than it is on turner. they made it two months without a positive test and then royally screwed it up at the very end. and i think the concern with regards to roberts was that he would be considered higher risk since he had lymphoma
My point being is that Roberts is a grown man and I'm sure he can tell Turner to put his mask on if he has a problem with it.
 

Quid Pro Clowe

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Mlb got the season they wanted, and like always they let the players take the heat. New commish, same cowardice.

The reason why Turner got it was playing in these games to begin with. He already exposed everyone to it everyone prior to being yanked or going on the field to celebrate. He deserved to have his moment, especially if those around him were okay.

Mlb was also very laxed with fan safety according to multiple people who attended. The league deserves the majority of the bad pub.
 

jcs0218

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Turner's teammates being fine with Turner joining the celebration is irrelevant.

They don't speak for the family members that were on the field , reporters that were on the field, and other MLB personnel that were on the field.

He shouldn't have been celebrating on the field. And MLB should have done a better job of ensuring that he complied with orders to leave the field. Even if security had to usher him off the field.

Everyone dropped the ball in this situation.
 

jcs0218

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I see a lot of people saying: "He already played 7 innings so he would have exposed everyone anyways".

Maybe, but maybe not. The fact is that him rejoining the team in post-game celebrations enhanced the risk of him exposing others. Those who maybe weren't exposed during the 7 innings were now facing a risk of being exposed due to the post-game celebration.

For example, what if someone in the bullpen who wasn't within 400 feet of Turner all day long happened to catch it from Turner in the post-game celebration?

Or even someone who didn't happen to sit close to Turner in the locker room or dugout, but happened to find themselves a couple of feet away from him during the post-game celebration?

Also, his teammates weren't the only ones in the post-game celebration. There were people on the field who wouldn't have been around him during innings 1-7. Such as family members, reporters, and MLB officials.
 

Quid Pro Clowe

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It's okay for family members, people who came in from outside the bubble and have been in contact with the public to be on the field and around the players, but not Turner? The f***??
 

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