Just Wondering

Discussion in 'NHL Draft - Prospects' started by gorrillaunit18, Aug 6, 2004.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
View Users: View Users
  1. Is there a draft year where Ovechkin wouldnt have gone first overall, if so which year and who went first overall that year? :D
     
  2. montreal

    montreal Go Habs Go

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2002
    Messages:
    35,287
    Likes Received:
    3,489
    Trophy Points:
    231
    Gender:
    Male

    '05 I'd say. We'll never know, but I personally would take or heavily consider taking Crosby over Ovechkin if Ovechkin were an '05. But you can't compare them, since AO missed being an '03 by a few days and Crosby is only 17. Both should be great that's for sure.
     
  3. hbk

    hbk Registered User Sponsor

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2002
    Messages:
    15,193
    Likes Received:
    1,004
    Trophy Points:
    214
    Home Page:
    Eric Lindros was extremely highly touted. moreso than even Ovechkin.
     
  4. Don'tcry4mejanhrdina

    Don'tcry4mejanhrdina Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2003
    Messages:
    10,479
    Likes Received:
    619
    Trophy Points:
    214
    Location:
    This space.
    2005 and 2001. IMO, he could go first those years, but it would be close.
     
  5. capman29

    capman29 Guest

    He would have gone first in every draf execpt the mario draft and that he would have gone second.
     
  6. Don'tcry4mejanhrdina

    Don'tcry4mejanhrdina Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2003
    Messages:
    10,479
    Likes Received:
    619
    Trophy Points:
    214
    Location:
    This space.
    Lindros and Daigle would have went higher.
     
  7. capman29

    capman29 Guest

    Sorry to bust your bubble but that is not what would have happened . If you put both Ovechkin and Lindros in the same draft Quebec would have taken Ovechkin because Lindro did not want to play there. No contest between Ovechkin and Daigle because talent wise Daigle is not even in Ovechkin league :Ovechkin in a shutout.
    One question why would you make such a stupid statement like that because t proves you know nothing about hockey nor talent .
     
  8. Jovavic

    Jovavic Blood Legion

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2002
    Messages:
    12,241
    Likes Received:
    520
    Trophy Points:
    214
    Location:
    StarCrossedWasteland
    Home Page:
    Ovechkin is da best playa eva!!!1111 Long live sheep!111 U R stoopid if u dont agre w/ me.

    {/off moron mode}
     
  9. Don'tcry4mejanhrdina

    Don'tcry4mejanhrdina Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2003
    Messages:
    10,479
    Likes Received:
    619
    Trophy Points:
    214
    Location:
    This space.
    Both of them were hyped a lot more than Ovechkin is. Lets just agree too disagree.
     
  10. db23

    db23 Guest

    There are at least half a dozen Russian players who have had better draft seasons in Russia than Ovechkin. Hard to beleive that he would have gone ahead of the likes of Pavel Bure or Alexander Mogilny to name a couple.
     
  11. Vipers

    Vipers Registered User

    Joined:
    May 17, 2002
    Messages:
    147
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Home Page:
    I love this Ovechkin and it's hard to translate what he will do in the N.H.L., a player like Forsberg, Lindros, Thornton, more... who can really say.

    Players like Lindros, Thornton, Lecavalier and Kovalchuk, in the past, were also quote as superb talent, may be more than Ovechkin at the moment they have been draft. Now, what' the sky for Ovechkin? He might be high and we will be withness of his upside
    in 2-3-4 or 5 years.
     
  12. PigPen

    PigPen Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2003
    Messages:
    1,832
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Detroit
    Home Page:
    Ovechkin wouldn't have gone first in these years.

    1971 - Guy Lafleur. 2nd overall pick was Marcel Dionne
    1973 - Denis Potvin
    1981 - Dale Hawerchuck. 4th overall pick was Ron Francis
    1984 - Mario Lemieux
    1988 - Mike Modano. 8th overall pick was Jeremy Roenick. 10th was Teemu Selanne.
    1989 - Mats Sundin
    1991 - Eric Lindros. 6th overall pick was Peter Forsberg
    1993 - Alexander Daigle. 2nd overall pick Chris Pronger. 4th overall pick Paul Kariya
    1997 - Joe Thornton. He's only the 3rd prospect ever to get a perfect 10 rating by the Central Scouting Bureau. The other two were Lemieux and Lindros.
    1998 - Vincent Lecavalier
    2001 - Ilya Kovalchuck. 2nd overall pick Jason Spezza.
     
  13. Chaos

    Chaos And the winner is...

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2003
    Messages:
    7,948
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    139
    Location:
    Watauga, TX
    Home Page:
    Didnt Quebec know that Lindros didnt want to play for them? If thats the case, I think that if Ovechkin had the same hype he has now, they would have just taken him, IMO
     
  14. Big McLargehuge

    Big McLargehuge Registered User

    Joined:
    May 9, 2002
    Messages:
    68,932
    Likes Received:
    1,216
    Trophy Points:
    215
    Location:
    S. Pasadena, CA
    Gonna disagree on Hawerchuk, Modano, Sundin, and Lecavalier. Kovalchuk could be argued.
     
  15. Legionnaire

    Legionnaire Kill! Jeff, Kill!!! Sponsor

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2002
    Messages:
    41,239
    Likes Received:
    1,115
    Trophy Points:
    214
    Location:
    LA-LA Land
    Home Page:
    Nah that's a pretty damn solid list. Good work Pig Pen.
     
  16. Legionnaire

    Legionnaire Kill! Jeff, Kill!!! Sponsor

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2002
    Messages:
    41,239
    Likes Received:
    1,115
    Trophy Points:
    214
    Location:
    LA-LA Land
    Home Page:
    That's a good point. However, I think with the way that Lindros was hyped they still would have drafted him. He was touted as a cross between Mario and Neely, and was slated to be the most dominant player ever.....and he was for a while.
     
  17. Vipers

    Vipers Registered User

    Joined:
    May 17, 2002
    Messages:
    147
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Home Page:

    When Lecavalier came to the draft, he had fantastic stats. and reputation.
    He was, at the time, named the Michael Jordan of hockey by Tampa's owner.

    Keep an eye on these numbers too:

    58g= 44g.+71a.=117pts+aa7pim. in the reg. season
    18g.=15g.+26a.= 41pts.+46pim.

    not bad for a 17 Yrs. old.

    I'm not sold that Ovechkin would go before a "North american" player with that potential.
     
  18. Super Reverse Homer

    Super Reverse Homer Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2003
    Messages:
    9,620
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Hong Kong
    Home Page:
    First of all, a major influence on draft rankings of scouts is hype . In hindsight Ovechkin is above Daigle but at the time Daigle was hyped to be the second coming, and there Daigle was talented - he just didn't have the heart nor the right direction.

    Second of all, why are you such a friggin a****** in almost every one of your post?
     
  19. Brock

    Brock Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2002
    Messages:
    10,915
    Likes Received:
    474
    Trophy Points:
    199
    Location:
    The GTA
    Home Page:
     
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2004
  20. Big McLargehuge

    Big McLargehuge Registered User

    Joined:
    May 9, 2002
    Messages:
    68,932
    Likes Received:
    1,216
    Trophy Points:
    215
    Location:
    S. Pasadena, CA
    I know the Lecavalier hype, but almost all of it came from Tampa Bay. If not for that I don't think Lecavalier has a fraction of the hype he had.
     
  21. easton122

    easton122 Registered User

    Joined:
    May 14, 2003
    Messages:
    1,951
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    Temple Student
    Location:
    USA
    Home Page:
    No way he'd get picked before Lindros :shakehead
     
  22. PigPen

    PigPen Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2003
    Messages:
    1,832
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Detroit
    Home Page:
  23. Legionnaire

    Legionnaire Kill! Jeff, Kill!!! Sponsor

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2002
    Messages:
    41,239
    Likes Received:
    1,115
    Trophy Points:
    214
    Location:
    LA-LA Land
    Home Page:
    I don't know either. I've asked him myself. The only thing I can figure is that he is just an angry teenager.
     
  24. KingPurpleDinosaur

    KingPurpleDinosaur Bandwagon Kings Fan

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2002
    Messages:
    2,897
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    irvine, ca
    Home Page:
    he's just an insecure caps fan who doesn't want anyone to doubt that they got the "steal of the century" by taking ovechkin. by proving to everyone that ovechkin is a player with the skill level only equivalent ot that of mario, he can then prove it to himself.

    haha, wat's even more funny is to look at his old posts. look at how often times the thread has nothign to do w/ ovechkin, but he still has to bring him up. wat a hard on this guy has for him.

    http://www.hfboards.com/showthread.php?p=1722504#post1722504
    http://www.hfboards.com/showthread.php?p=1722518#post1722518
    http://www.hfboards.com/showthread.php?p=1727062#post1727062
    http://www.hfboards.com/showthread.php?p=1727104#post1727104
    http://www.hfboards.com/showthread.php?p=1727128#post1727128

    and i agree with pigpen's post, i think i may have draft lindros, daigle, thornton, and kovalchuk prior to ovechkin. lecavalier maybe, but not too sure abou thim.
     
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2004
  25. Paxon

    Paxon ⚔Z E M G U S⚔

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2003
    Messages:
    26,282
    Likes Received:
    680
    Trophy Points:
    218
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Rochester, NY
    You obviously don't understand much about drafting. Daigle got way more buzz than Ovechkin and therefor he would have been picked above him. Lecavalier may have, as well as Mush Head and others. Even last year you can't say he wouldn't have since Pittsburg obviously had their sights on Fleury. In every year there's a chance he WOULDN't be first and Daigle is one that almost certainly would have been picked over him.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

monitoring_string = "358c248ada348a047a4b9bb27a146148"