Speculation: Julius Honka

[member 262271]

i liked him as a bottom pairing guy who could fill in on the second pairing sometimes in stl actually

he was playing above his head in toronto but he wasnt the disaster you guys make him out to be

I wasn't aware of how he was in STL so I was sort of putting the feelers out there. Definitely didn't like him in Toronto - I do hope he does well in Texas but man I don't miss him.

 

[Homesick]

Why isn’t Honka playing? What’s the main problem with his game?

I remember him being a strong and confident puck mover, has his skill level really dropped that much or has Heiskanen helped make his eile redundant?

If it weren’t for Bouchard, I think Edmonton could have a use for him.

No idea what his value is.

If it weren't for Ethan Bear or Matt Benning .....nope, still no use for him.

 

[Satan]

Ahhh I didn't read your details under your username, my bad Dark prince.

theres not a better player in the liiga rn

 

[Johno]

Dallas only has one young defenseman that gets Nylander, but I don't want to get into that

There's only one young player on the Leafs that gets them said young defender, but yeah let's not get into it.

 

[WhatWhat]

Objectively worse? Honka scored 4 points in 42 games last year with 56% o-zone starts. Oleksiak is also 6'8" and can bring a physical presence when he's not scoring.

You are certainly allowed your own opinion but I have seen both on the ice multiple times and I would take Honka over Oleksiak 10 times out 10. It was the case when they were both in Dallas and its still the case now that they are on different teams

 

[Brock Radunske]

There's only one young player on the Leafs that gets them said young defender, but yeah let's not get into it.

Fair enough. No Nylander to Dallas, then.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

You are certainly allowed your own opinion but I have seen both on the ice multiple times and I would take Honka over Oleksiak 10 times out 10. It was the case when they were both in Dallas and its still the case now that they are on different teams

You're certainly entitled to your opinion and being a regular watcher of both carries subjective weight, but I'm taking issue with the idea that Honka is objectively better. I think that's very debatable, especially considering the other guy has objectively established himself as an NHL regular and is producing considerably better than Honka.

Oleksiak went for a 4th. I don't think Honka's going for more than that at this point...teams don't usually fall all over themselves trying to acquire small waiver-eligible PMDs who didn't produce in the pros the year before, young or not, 1st rounders or not. If they did, the Pens sure would have gotten more than a 4th and Pedan for Pouliot last fall.

 

[LT]

Objectively comparing similar tier hockey players is nearly impossible. Not much of a point to it.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Objectively comparing similar tier hockey players is nearly impossible. Not much of a point to it.

Well, the idea was put out there that 1st rounders still have value that long after the draft and Honka was worth more than Oleksiak in spite of his lack of production in part because he was a lot younger. I'm just rebutting.

 

[Riptide]

Another coach that likes Polak too much to realize he's terrible.

I'd take him on the Leafs. Ideally Hainsey goes first though. I actually think his game would really suit Riellys style of play as well.

You're not giving Hainsey nearly enough credit if you think a rookie who's played a little more than half a season in the NHL over his entire career is going to step in and play 20 minutes a night.

 

[Riptide]

You're certainly entitled to your opinion and being a regular watcher of both carries subjective weight, but I'm taking issue with the idea that Honka is objectively better. I think that's very debatable, especially considering the other guy has objectively established himself as an NHL regular and is producing considerably better than Honka.

Oleksiak went for a 4th. I don't think Honka's going for more than that at this point...teams don't usually fall all over themselves trying to acquire small waiver-eligible PMDs who didn't produce in the pros the year before, young or not, 1st rounders or not. If they did, the Pens sure would have gotten more than a 4th and Pedan for Pouliot last fall.

I don't think he'd even go for that, and as you said, certainly not more than that. 42 games last season, and a whopping 4 points. That's not the end of the world if you're suppose to be a defensive D... when you're supposed to be a PMD offensive D... and you're under sized... that's really not enough.

 

[Canuck86]

Ben Hutton 50% retained for Honka? Both seem to not be in the coaches good books, both could use a change of scenery

 

[DarthProbert]

Leivo for Honka.

 

[vokiel]

Ok Thanks. I would've propose a deal between him and Scherbak if he was LD.

Why not? Honka is a lot better than Lernout and probably much better than Benn or Alzner on the right. I'd offer Scherbak for Honka without any issues. It isn't like Scherbak is worth much more anyway.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Leivo for Honka.

Maybe I'm crazy, but that seems like a reasonable deal.

 

[serp]

Honka might ride the pine but he isn't getting traded until Johns is back and when that is who the hell knows ? Post traumatic headaches isn't fun and not something with even really a timeline.

The team wasn't comfortable with the AHL callup options Bayreuther and Heatheringon so they aquired Carrick . Honka isn't getting traded .

Also have no idea why Dallas would want to aquire Leivo . We send similar AHL'ers/NHL 4th lines guys down . No need for Leivo who would just be waived .

 

[Kcb12345]

Leivo for Honka.

We have enough Leivo's already. He would be stuck on our 4th line and we have plenty of 4th line depth. I'd consider it if Leivo was 22

 

[LucicAndChong]

It'd likely take a bit more than that, but I'd certainly be open to the Leafs and Stars talking trade again!

Last one worked out pretty well, with Carrick off to a solid start.

Im really happy Carrick is working out for you guys

 

[serp]

We have enough Leivo's already. He would be stuck on our 4th line and we have plenty of 4th line depth. I'd consider it if Leivo was 22

We just waived a Leivo in Elie .

 

[Kcb12345]

Im really happy Carrick is working out for you guys

Only been 1 game though...could turn out bad still. He will be tested on saturday along with the rest of the d core

 

[LucicAndChong]

Only been 1 game though...could turn out bad still. He will be tested on saturday along with the rest of the d core

well I hope he does well for you guys, he is an amazing person and his dog is adorable and I just want to see him succeed somewhere

 

[Kcb12345]

I think people and overthinking this healthy scratch Honka had...he had one bad practice and will still likely end up a lineup regular for the Stars this year. Monty isn't the type to keep him out like this he was really impressed with him in preseason

 

[Kcb12345]

well I hope he does well for you guys, he is an amazing person and his dog is adorable and I just want to see him succeed somewhere

Speaking of which...

 

[LucicAndChong]

Speaking of which...

awhhhhhh, if you dont follow Carrick on Instagram yet, do it.

 

[Kcb12345]

awhhhhhh, if you dont follow Carrick on Instagram yet, do it.

Was the first thing I did as soon as we acquired him! Not kidding lol