Julie Turris's Podcast
- Thread starter BloodRedArmy
- Start date
- Status
Sensung
Registered User
- Oct 3, 2017
- 6,101
- 3,357
DJB
Registered User
How many fingers need to be pointed all in the same direction from various people before the nay sayers finally agree that the person at the top is responsible for all this chaos?
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for sharing!
Surprised the special guest isn't Marlee Hammond. They love taking digs at the Sens.
Maybe it's just me and this is just from a limited view from afar via twitter, but I find Marlee quite annoying. Seems like she loves attention.
DaveMatthew
Bring in Peter
Listened to the whole podcast and it's always interesting to hear that type of perspective on trades/hockey life. At the end of the day, this is a job for all of these players and their families.
And the more you listen to the stuff that slowly leaks out from former players, the more obvious it becomes that nobody respects Pierre Dorion or Eugene Melnyk. Not surprising really, neither of these have ever been in a locker room or played hockey at even a semi-professional level. They have no idea what it's like to be part of a team, how to build a team, or what players and their families care about.
I've said it before, but even with all of the questionable trades/signings, the passing of Bryan Murray was the death knell for this franchise, and it won't recover until Dumb and Dumber are gone.
Alfredsson, Turris, Karlsson, Methot, Spezza, Fisher, etc all speak glowingly about Murray, even after disagreements/divorces. Nobody has ever said a nice word about Eugene Melnyk or Pierre Dorion. And nobody will, because they have zero humility and walk around like they're the smartest guys in the world.
And the more you listen to the stuff that slowly leaks out from former players, the more obvious it becomes that nobody respects Pierre Dorion or Eugene Melnyk. Not surprising really, neither of these have ever been in a locker room or played hockey at even a semi-professional level. They have no idea what it's like to be part of a team, how to build a team, or what players and their families care about.
I've said it before, but even with all of the questionable trades/signings, the passing of Bryan Murray was the death knell for this franchise, and it won't recover until Dumb and Dumber are gone.
Alfredsson, Turris, Karlsson, Methot, Spezza, Fisher, etc all speak glowingly about Murray, even after disagreements/divorces. Nobody has ever said a nice word about Eugene Melnyk or Pierre Dorion. And nobody will, because they have zero humility and walk around like they're the smartest guys in the world.
Last edited:
BonHoonLayneCornell
Registered User
DJB
Registered User
BonkTastic
ಠ_ಠ
She/they can't, because it inevitably becomes a "he-said/she-said" situation that is hard to prove, and if it's hard to prove then she opens herself up to a libel/slander lawsuit.
DaveMatthew
Bring in Peter
They can't because they're part of a different organization. Once someone is no longer employed by the NHL though? That's when you might hear some good stuff.
Rumor has it that Methot may be looking at retirement this offseason (depending on what type of offers are out there), and he's angling for a media job back here in Ottawa. I'm sure he's got lots of things to say...
BonHoonLayneCornell
Registered User
Interesting. I didn't know that would be a real concern in this context. I guess its consistent with what we typically see when players move on, I'm always surprised players bite their tongue as much as they do, but this makes sense.
Stylizer1
SENSimillanaire
My uncle bought Hammonds truck. He left a copy of his insurance in the glove compartment and his kids sippy cup. Dealership never though of opening it. lol
Xspyrit
DJ Dorion
About Bryan Murray, the only player that « walked out for nothing » was 41 y/o Alfie and it’s pretty obvious that it was a contract dispute because Melnyk didn’t want to pay. He traded Spezza and Healtey for « lesser » assets but it was just before their steep decline and before they became massive anchors with their contracts
He let Volchenkov, Kuba and Gonchar at the right time; just before they were done in the NHL
People complain about signings but Gonchar, MacArthur and Kovalev were by far better UFA signings that any of what Dorion has been doing the last 3 years.
His drafting was amazing and he hired some of the key people who were in charge of the last few drafts (Dorion is miscast as GM but is great at the draft table)
People also complained about the Bishop trade but forget that Murray initially acquired him with a 2nd round pick. Or that Campoli trade, gave up a « 1st round pick » yes but recovered a 2nd and Potulny after 2.5 years of cheap services (and also Comrie as a rental)
I mostly criticized Murray for his coaching hirings but now I realize that his boss won’t give you a bigger coaching budget, what is really possible?
Yeah, Murray is the man that kept this team respectable for so long
Is there anybody left who doesn’t think that « he who must not be named« is a big problem? I don’t read much anymore so I have missed a ton but there’s probably nobody left among those informed enough
He let Volchenkov, Kuba and Gonchar at the right time; just before they were done in the NHL
People complain about signings but Gonchar, MacArthur and Kovalev were by far better UFA signings that any of what Dorion has been doing the last 3 years.
His drafting was amazing and he hired some of the key people who were in charge of the last few drafts (Dorion is miscast as GM but is great at the draft table)
People also complained about the Bishop trade but forget that Murray initially acquired him with a 2nd round pick. Or that Campoli trade, gave up a « 1st round pick » yes but recovered a 2nd and Potulny after 2.5 years of cheap services (and also Comrie as a rental)
I mostly criticized Murray for his coaching hirings but now I realize that his boss won’t give you a bigger coaching budget, what is really possible?
Yeah, Murray is the man that kept this team respectable for so long
Is there anybody left who doesn’t think that « he who must not be named« is a big problem? I don’t read much anymore so I have missed a ton but there’s probably nobody left among those informed enough
Last edited:
Sens of Anarchy
Registered User
- Jul 9, 2013
- 65,253
- 49,873
I personally could not give 3 red cents what Julie Turris has to say
You're right. It's much better to just randomly speculate about things going on in the organization than to hear from people who were involved in the organization.
Sens of Anarchy
Registered User
- Jul 9, 2013
- 65,253
- 49,873
I never tried to convince you to think otherwise.. just saying what I think.
BoardsofCanada
Registered User
No one is denying Melnyk and Dorion are the cause of the downfall (but also bad luck ie. Hoffman scandal) but my problem with the whiners is what are you going to do about it? Melnyk is the owner. This isn't a democracy. You can stop supporting the Sens but Melnyk isn't going anywhere.
Do you think Mark Zuckerberg is going to fade into the sunset because of backlash?
Do you think Mark Zuckerberg is going to fade into the sunset because of backlash?
Sensung
Registered User
- Oct 3, 2017
- 6,101
- 3,357
We have stopped supporting Melnyk to make sure he feels the pain he promised was coming. He had already announced the plan prior to the season, so fans pulling support has no effect on the financially motivated firesale. It was going to happen either way.
The more fans that reject this owner, the sooner he will be gone.
Agent Zub
Registered User
- Jan 2, 2015
- 14,531
- 11,799
- Status
Ad
Latest posts
-
-
GDT: 4/25/24 - 7:00PM EDT - #1 Florida vs #1 WC Tampa Bay [ECQF GAME 3]
- Latest: Lightning1995
-
-
When was the last time you cried because of a playoff loss?- Latest: AhosDatsyukian
