Value of: JT Compher

[PAZ]

Just trying to gauge his value. He's been a 0.5 PPG center on the Avs, but would be a better fit as a winger.

Would any rebuilding teams be interested in him for basically free (i.e. Johnsson for Anderson swap). The Avs aren't desperate to move him, but Compher would probably be a better fit for a rebuilding team where he has potential to become a team vet for when they're ready to compete, as opposed to signing an older UFA.

This would allow the Avs to get an upgrade on Compher with the extra space.

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[Balthazar]

3 years remaining at 3.5M per.

 

[avsfan9]

Avs aren’t Vegas, they don’t sign players to 3-4 year contracts and trade them because they didn’t turn out as great as fans wanted them to be. Like it or not compher is with the avs for at least two more seasons

 

[John Mandalorian]

Avs aren’t Vegas, they don’t sign players to 3-4 year contracts and trade them because they didn’t turn out as great as fans wanted them to be. Like it or not compher is with the avs for at least two more seasons

I wouldn’t be surprised if they traded Donskoi or Compher. There’s kind of a logjam at wing even though depth will be more important this season.

 

[PKWeber]

Jost+2nd

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Negative value for both JTC and Donskoi. Teams are not trading for these types unless they are unloading capdumps of their own. JTC and Donakoi in this market are 2.5 / 3M players.

too many better options still available that will likely be cheaper to sign.

 

[Patagonia]

I doubt AVs trade Compher.

Contract is not significant enough like ie. Drouin being negative value. I expect him to remain on the team until Newhook arrives after next season. He’ll either shift to RW or replace PEB on the 4th line.

 

[ole ole]

Compher has negative value. Unless you willing to take a bad contract back nobody will want him.

 

[Goulet17]

Compher has negative value?

I'm not sure why Colorado would consider trading him, but I would have to understand the reasoning as to why 25 year old right handed shot forward, who can and does play on the PP and PK, has negative value. We are talking about a 25 year old signed for $3.5M AAV for three more seasons. Stating that he have negative value seems like a stretch. Now, Colorado fans may have an unrealistic expectation regarding his market value in trade, but a negative value implies that you would have to essentially pay someone to take him.

Is Compher on par with Loui Eriksson regarding his contract and value now?

 

[kb]

Compher has negative value?

I'm not sure why Colorado would consider trading him, but I would have to understand the reasoning as to why 25 year old right handed shot forward, who can and does play on the PP and PK, has negative value. We are talking about a 25 year old signed for $3.5M AAV for three more seasons. Stating that he have negative value seems like a stretch. Now, Colorado fans may have an unrealistic expectation regarding his market value in trade, but a negative value implies that you would have to essentially pay someone to take him.

Is Compher on par with Loui Eriksson regarding his contract and value now?

He'd have approximately the same value as someone such as Andreas Johnsson. So a 3rd or equivalent...definitely not negative value, but he's less valuable to another team than to the Avs - and the return will reflect that.

 

[Goulet17]

He'd have approximately the same value as someone such as Andreas Johnsson. So a 3rd or equivalent...definitely not negative value, but he's less valuable to another team than to the Avs - and the return will reflect that.

Maybe true, particularly with Compher coming off of a major knee injury and with Colorado desperate to trade him for cap relief due to some bad contracts and overall poor cap management.

Responding to your original post-before you went back to edit it. I don't disagree with your statement that he likely is more important to the Avs than what they would fetch in trade, particularly with the Avs having cup aspirations.

I think this whole *&(%^-match between some Colorado posters and some Montreal posters has led to some jump the shark statements and discussions.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

It would be asinine to suggest Compher has negative value - that's something only a troll would say. He's a good young player who fills a lot of roles. I'm fine rolling with him as 3C next year.

 

[kb]

Maybe true, particularly with Compher coming off of a major knee injury.

Yeah, the parallels between the 2 players is striking. Both with a history of 2nd/3rd line production.

I think this whole *&(%^-match between some Colorado posters and some Montreal posters has led to some jump the shark statements and discussions.

Yep. It happens in every single thread about valuation. People love to let their biases show.

 

[Goulet17]

Yeah, the parallels between the 2 players is striking. Both LW coming off major knee injuries with a history of 2nd/3rd line production.


Yep. It happens in every single thread about valuation. People love to let their biases show.

Hmmm....

 

[ole ole]

I doubt AVs trade Compher.

Contract is not significant enough like ie. Drouin being negative value. I expect him to remain on the team until Newhook arrives after next season. He’ll either shift to RW or replace PEB on the 4th line.

Wait are you not the poster that claimed that Mete at 735K is considered a cap dump.
Please enlighten us more with your Superior knowledge.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Wait are you not the poster that claimed that Mete at 735K is considered a cap dump.
Please enlighten us more with your Superior knowledge.

Yep that’s him. We should post a Mete capdump thread so Avs fans can tell uswhat kind of sweetener is required to dump Mete and his egregious contract.

 

[Patagonia]

Wait are you not the poster that claimed that Mete at 735K is considered a cap dump.
Please enlighten us more with your Superior knowledge.

Compher outscored Anderson the last 3 seasons, earn significantly less and with 4 fewer years. We’re trying to dump him, but it’s not cap crippling like Anderson.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Compher outscored Anderson the last 3 seasons, earn significantly less and with 4 fewer years. We’re trying to dump him, but it’s not cap crippling like Anderson.

Look once you claimed Mete’s 735K contract is considered a cap dump your credibility went down the
poop chute

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Just trying to gauge his value. He's been a 0.5 PPG center on the Avs, but would be a better fit as a winger.

Would any rebuilding teams be interested in him for basically free (i.e. Johnsson for Anderson swap). The Avs aren't desperate to move him, but Compher would probably be a better fit for a rebuilding team where he has potential to become a team vet for when they're ready to compete, as opposed to signing an older UFA.

This would allow the Avs to get an upgrade on Compher with the extra space.

Paz, if Compher could be traded (with positive value) one would think Sakic would have pulled the trigger by now and signed a better/ cheaper 3C (like Haula). Why do you think this has not happened?

Waiting this late doesn’t make sense to me. All the replacement options will have disappeared.

Either Sakic has tried and failed to trade JTC or he sees him as a reasonable option at 3C.

 

[themelkman]

Hes not negative value, but there isnt much incentive for the teams that can afford him to get him. If your contending hes not quite enough for the money he takes, and if your rebuilding its just a clogged roster spot.

 

[PensandCaps]

Seems like a player the Avs should keep, no?

based on his stats he seems to be a good 3C/W who gives you 35 - 40 points, PKs and plays well in the playoffs (17 points in 32 games)

 

[Groo]

I view it differently in the sense that $3.5M for three years is certainly not crippling for any team, although we are currently in the middle of some unusual market circumstances. He has market value in my mind, but it all comes down to whether his value would offer any incentive for Colorado to trade him. I have not seen any rumors involving Colorado shopping Compher or ever looking to trade him.

I don't really understand the obsession over trades in any event.

When in Rome. This board is all about playing the Jr GM

 

[Gecklund]

Hes not negative value, but there isnt much incentive for the teams that can afford him to get him. If your contending hes not quite enough for the money he takes, and if your rebuilding its just a clogged roster spot.

I’d actually be okay with him as 3C on the Sharks.

 

[hughdreamz]

Compher is a Swiss Army knife of a player who isn’t really great at anything. Incredibly versatile but only moderately successful. For a rebuilding team, he’d fit in the middle 6. For a contender, he’s prob not worth the cost. He only works for Colorado right now is because they have the cap space.

 

[Odie Cleghorn]

Did Compher have surgery after the season ended?