Jost, Nieto, or Calvert

[Balthazar]

Bednar's not gonna bench Nieto. It's either Jost or Wilson and it all depends on what kind of condition Wilson's in. The good news for him is that everyone is going to need re-conditioning to a certain extent and he will have ample opportunity to prove he's ready. If it comes down to him or Jost, no question: Wilson.

Yeah Wilson will be rusty but so is everyone else. Is there a big difference between 8 months of inactivity and 3 months?

 

[Pokecheque]

Yeah Wilson will be rusty but so is everyone else. Is there a big difference between 8 months of inactivity and 3 months?

Probably not. I think it really just comes down to Wilson's overall fitness level and health. If he's 100% good to go then great. If the groin is still acting like a rubber band left in the freezer, then he probably sits.

 

[Foppa2118]

Yeah Wilson will be rusty but so is everyone else. Is there a big difference between 8 months of inactivity and 3 months?

An extra five months might be a big difference. It's hard to tell without seeing how Wilson looks.

A big part of your success and ability to jump back in at a high level, after extended layoffs, is your natural athleticism, and skill level with the puck. Then the main thing you have to work on is getting your timing back.

Wilson is a great team guy and works hard, but he's not a high level athlete, or a guy with a high skill level. It's going to take him longer to get his shot and passing skills up to par. Conditioning also comes back much quicker for high level athletes like Nate or Mikko than it does for someone like Wilson.

It might be pretty tough for him to jump straight into the playoffs. Even with the long break for everyone else, there's still likely to be a fast pace, and a high intensity level.

 

[Balthazar]

Actually assuming that they resume playing in August it's going to be 9 months off for Wilson and 5 months off for everyone else. I don't see much of a difference here.

 

[McMetal]

An extra five months might be a big difference. It's hard to tell without seeing how Wilson looks.

A big part of your success and ability to jump back in at a high level, after extended layoffs, is your natural athleticism, and skill level with the puck. Then the main thing you have to work on is getting your timing back.

Wilson is a great team guy and works hard, but he's not a high level athlete, or a guy with a high skill level. It's going to take him longer to get his shot and passing skills up to par. Conditioning also comes back much quicker for high level athletes like Nate or Mikko than it does for someone like Wilson.

It might be pretty tough for him to jump straight into the playoffs. Even with the long break for everyone else, there's still likely to be a fast pace, and a high intensity level.

I mean, even the Colin Wilsons of the NHL are high level, freak athletes in the grand scheme of things. As far as conditioning and fitness goes there isn't really a meaningful difference between Wilson and MacKinnon. Raw talent, sure, but Wilson has been able to stick as an NHL player for a lot of years, there's no reason to think he would be extra vulnerable to getting rusty. As like Balthazar pointed out, the difference between 9 months and 5 months is kind of irrelevant.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

I mean, even the Colin Wilsons of the NHL are high level, freak athletes in the grand scheme of things. As far as conditioning and fitness goes there isn't really a meaningful difference between Wilson and MacKinnon. Raw talent, sure, but Wilson has been able to stick as an NHL player for a lot of years, there's no reason to think he would be extra vulnerable to getting rusty. As like Balthazar pointed out, the difference between 9 months and 5 months is kind of irrelevant.

Bruh?

 

[McMetal]

Bruh?

Like, the difference between him and MacKinnon is way smaller than the difference between you and Colin Wilson. My point is that they're ALL elite athletes at that level, you don't stay in the NHL if you're not. Even Phil Kessel is pretty damn fit compared to 99% of non-athletes.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Like, the difference between him and MacKinnon is way smaller than the difference between you and Colin Wilson. My point is that they're ALL elite athletes at that level, you don't stay in the NHL if you're not. Even Phil Kessel is pretty damn fit compared to 99% of non-athletes.

Oh, you got that right.

Me attempting an Avs conditioning test.

 

[Foppa2118]

I mean, even the Colin Wilsons of the NHL are high level, freak athletes in the grand scheme of things. As far as conditioning and fitness goes there isn't really a meaningful difference between Wilson and MacKinnon. Raw talent, sure, but Wilson has been able to stick as an NHL player for a lot of years, there's no reason to think he would be extra vulnerable to getting rusty. As like Balthazar pointed out, the difference between 9 months and 5 months is kind of irrelevant.

There's levels to everything. Both Wilson and MacKinnon are hard workers. But the things Nathan MacKinnon does in his off season workouts with Sid, are things that Colin Wilson is not capable of doing. At least not nearly as well as Nate and Sid do them. That's because he doesn't have anywhere near the natural athleticism they do.

 

[Freaky Styley]

Given the roles that are available, I prefer Nieto in the lineup over Jost. He has some good playoff moments too. Jost is too much of a wildcard.

I will say this though, not many teams have the luxury of having to scratch 2 players of Jost/Wilson/Nieto caliber.

 

[MonsterMack]

I simply don't believe Joe will bench Jost, right or wrong.

 

[Mighty Makar]

I think Nieto will sit. Calvert’s a f***en beauty. Jost and Big Z will be traded in the off-season, whenever that is.

 

[Odie Cleghorn]

I simply don't believe Joe will bench Jost, right or wrong.

Why bench Jost? He looks good every time I watch an Avalanche game.

 

[Foppa2118]

Why bench Jost? He looks good every time I watch an Avalanche game.

 

[Richard88]

Why bench Jost? He looks good every time I watch an Avalanche game.

I'll bite.

The only way your post makes sense is if you're a teenage girl with a poster of Tyson Jost on your bedroom wall.

 

[BrickNHL]

Why bench Jost? He looks good every time I watch an Avalanche game.

Did you only watch the Tampa game?

 

[Linds]

I'll bite.

The only way your post makes sense is if you're a teenage girl with a poster of Tyson Jost on your bedroom wall.

Nah, the poster is on the ceiling right above his bed

 

[Avsboy]

I'll bite.

The only way your post makes sense is if you're a teenage girl with a poster of Tyson Jost on your bedroom wall.

You mean @Sea Eagles?

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Why bench Jost? He looks good every time I watch an Avalanche game.

I knew Ian Cole was on HF Boards but I didn't realize Tyson made an account as well! Are you excited for a fresh start with a new team next season Tyson?

 

[henchman21]

Why bench Jost? He looks good every time I watch an Avalanche game.

 

[Pokecheque]

I think Nieto will sit. Calvert’s a f***en beauty. Jost and Big Z will be traded in the off-season, whenever that is.

I saw it that way too but now that I've had time to think on it, I don't think there's a scenario where Bednar sits Nieto.

 

[tigervixxxen]

To my knowledge only one of these three has ever been a healthy scratch for the Avalanche, and he’s the answer here.

Easily Jost.

Jost has not, Nieto has.

I’m going with Wilson and Nieto as the scratches because JB isn’t going to favor Willie after missing almost a whole year and Nieto is replaced by a better Namestnikov. And both should be gone whenever the offseason begins. I also don’t assume they can escape camp fully healthy because they never do.

 

[Richard88]

Jost has not, Nieto has.

I’m going with Wilson and Nieto as the scratches because JB isn’t going to favor Willie after missing almost a whole year and Nieto is replaced by a better Namestnikov. And both should be gone whenever the offseason begins. I also don’t assume they can escape camp fully healthy because they never do.

Good point about Namestnikov replacing Nieto on the PK.

If Nieto isn't on the top PK unit then it's hard to justify him over Jost.

 

[Avsboy]

Jost has not, Nieto has.

I’m going with Wilson and Nieto as the scratches because JB isn’t going to favor Willie after missing almost a whole year and Nieto is replaced by a better Namestnikov. And both should be gone whenever the offseason begins. I also don’t assume they can escape camp fully healthy because they never do.

Nieto has PK use. Can never have enough of them. Jost is useless when he isn't scoring, which is 90% of the time.

 

[shadow1]

Jost has not, Nieto has.

I’m going with Wilson and Nieto as the scratches because JB isn’t going to favor Willie after missing almost a whole year and Nieto is replaced by a better Namestnikov. And both should be gone whenever the offseason begins. I also don’t assume they can escape camp fully healthy because they never do.

You're right, Nieto was a healthy scratch in early 2018 and Jost hasn't been. I was thinking of when Jost was sent to the AHL last year and thought I remembered him being a scratch...I was wrong.