Player Discussion: Josh Ho-Sang

[HyeDray]

Everyone goes ga-ga over this kid. And he has skill to burn. But you know what — he belongs in BPort. He proved that again this camp. What did he do to earn a spot?

Too many fans take talent to mean he is the next Bossy or Turgeon. Talent is all well and good, but in the NHL you cannot be taking extra long shifts, or be a defensive liability or be knocked off the puck by a fart!

Right now, JHS best place for this franchise is probably as part of a trade package. He is more Oleg Kvasha then Turgeon! Best to trade him while the idea of his talent is worth something.

 

[Doshell Propivo]

no he isn't, he has averaged over 1/2 a point a game in his brief time in the league, considering how much the team sucked when he went down last year and how much the team looks like it is going to suck going into the season, he is deserving of a spot on the team

Yeah, the team really missed his offensive prowess. That's why the team sucked when was sent down. LOL

He was a huge defensive liability on a defensively challenged team. That's why he was sent down.

 

[Bood12]

Yeah, the team really missed his offensive prowess. That's why the team sucked when was sent down. LOL

He was a huge defensive liability on a defensively challenged team. That's why he was sent down.

and the defense was so awesome once they got rid of him, whatever negative Ho-Sang has his positives definitely outweigh them and on a team that is definitely looking like they are going nowhere this year it is only beneficial to have a guy like him on the roster

I can not imagine how unwatchably boring this team is going to be when Barzal is not on the ice

 

[hoser14]

Ho-Sang is exactly where he deserved to be.

Are you kidding! I would send down Fritz, Gionta, Johnson and Kühnhackl before I send Ho-Sang. I can't figure out why are the Isles are screwing around with JHS development?

With the right coaching, JHS could be Barzal-lite.

 

[Doshell Propivo]

whatever negative Ho-Sang has his positives definitely outweigh

Wrong. And seems like every coach he's ever had has come to the same conclusion.

 

[Doshell Propivo]

Are you kidding! I would send down Fritz, Gionta, Johnson and Kühnhackl before I send Ho-Sang. I can't figure out why are the Isles are screwing around with JHS development?

With the right coaching, JHS could be Barzal-lite.

17 coaches and 12 GM's from various levels are all conspiring together to "screw around" with Ho-Sang. The only reason I can think of is because it's kinda fun.

 

[Bood12]

Are you kidding! I would send down Fritz, Gionta, Johnson and Kühnhackl before I send Ho-Sang. I can't figure out why are the Isles are screwing around with JHS development?

With the right coaching, JHS could be Barzal-lite.

Frtitz? I did not even look at the roster, please tell me you are kidding that Tanner Fritz is not only not still on this team but is still on the roster over Ho-Sang

and yes it is a complete joke Ho-Sang is being buried in favor of those other guys, along with guys like Komarov, Martin (Yes Martin) etc.

 

[Bood12]

Wrong. And seems like every coach he's ever had has come to the same conclusion.

I don't give a flying f*** what every other coach has said about him, you must be a guy who just goes along with what everyone else does, I saw a guy who is able to play at the NHL and he has skills to prove it, 22 points in 43 games as a 21 year old, he is deserving of a roster spot on this team that is looking like they are headed for a lottery pick, and no I am not rooting for them to get a lottery pick, I root for them to win and not to lose

 

[Doshell Propivo]

I don't give a flying **** what every other coach has said about him, you must be a guy who just goes along with what everyone else does, I saw a guy who is able to play at the NHL and he has skills to prove it, 22 points in 43 games as a 21 year old, he is deserving of a roster spot on this team that is looking like they are headed for a lottery pick, and no I am not rooting for them to get a lottery pick, I root for them to win and not to lose

Funny because I saw a guy who couldn't play defense and so did all of his coaches.

But hey, maybe you're right and everyone else is wrong.

 

[Bood12]

But hey, maybe you're right and everyone else is wrong.

based on past history which we all know, I am guessing you are right

 

[Doshell Propivo]

based on past history which we all know, I am guessing you are right

Not sure what you're talking about but OK.

The fact is that the only way Ho-Sang plays in the NHL is if he works on the defensive aspect of his game.

 

[doublechili]

It's been pretty clear from the start that priority #1 with Lou and Trotz is culture change. They want to establish team-over-individual, accountability, defensive responsibility, grit, etc., etc..

So that's going to play into their roster decisions. They're not going to jettison an established pro so that a kid can figure it out in the NHL. That would work counter to the main thing they're trying to accomplish this year.

 

[Bood12]

Everyone goes ga-ga over this kid. And he has skill to burn. But you know what — he belongs in BPort. He proved that again this camp. What did he do to earn a spot?

Too many fans take talent to mean he is the next Bossy or Turgeon. Talent is all well and good, but in the NHL you cannot be taking extra long shifts, or be a defensive liability or be knocked off the puck by a fart!

Right now, JHS best place for this franchise is probably as part of a trade package. He is more Oleg Kvasha then Turgeon! Best to trade him while the idea of his talent is worth something.

yes, and when he is putting up 50-60 points on another team and we are watching Bailey go back to 40 points a year, Brock Nelson with his 30sh and just a dead offensive team outside of Barzal we are going to wonder why he was given away for nothing

 

[ThreeLeftSkates]

Why??

I, unable to skate and over 50, have as much chance to be an NHL regular as MDC.

 

[IslandersFan17]

yes, and when he is putting up 50-60 points on another team and we are watching Bailey go back to 40 points a year, Brock Nelson with his 30sh and just a dead offensive team outside of Barzal we are going to wonder why he was given away for nothing

Hyperbole about a kid who couldn't crack the lineup doesn't come across as rational but more reactional

 

[YearlyLottery]

Everyone goes ga-ga over this kid. And he has skill to burn. But you know what — he belongs in BPort. He proved that again this camp. What did he do to earn a spot?

Too many fans take talent to mean he is the next Bossy or Turgeon. Talent is all well and good, but in the NHL you cannot be taking extra long shifts, or be a defensive liability or be knocked off the puck by a fart!

Right now, JHS best place for this franchise is probably as part of a trade package. He is more Oleg Kvasha then Turgeon! Best to trade him while the idea of his talent is worth something.

Considering Lamoriello said he was "excellent" I would argue he has done a decent amount to earn a spot and will be the first or second call up.

 

[Seph]

Are you kidding! I would send down Fritz, Gionta, Johnson and Kühnhackl before I send Ho-Sang. I can't figure out why are the Isles are screwing around with JHS development?

With the right coaching, JHS could be Barzal-lite.

In reference to Ho-Sang, Lou was quoted in the Athletic as saying the following:

“I thought he was excellent,” Lamoriello said. “I thought he worked hard, gave us everything he had, worked hard on his game away from the puck. He just needs to go to the minors, he’s got ability, go there and get over all these issues that I haven’t seen, that transpired in the past. He’s been excellent in camp. Just go grow there and get better. He’s young.”

In short, they're trying to not screw around with his development by rushing him.

source: Islanders' cutdown day: Ho-Sang, Bellows among those sent...

 

[Konk]

and the defense was so awesome once they got rid of him, whatever negative Ho-Sang has his positives definitely outweigh them and on a team that is definitely looking like they are going nowhere this year it is only beneficial to have a guy like him on the roster

I can not imagine how unwatchably boring this team is going to be when Barzal is not on the ice

Barzal doesn't stick handle himself into a corner and lose the puck on a regular basis. He's also consistently in the right position and makes a lot of key defensive plays. Can he improve, yes, he is not perfect, but he is miles beyond JHS in terms of his defensive positioning and offensive efficiency.

JHS has gotten better with these things, but he needs to continue to improve and work his way into the lineup. Pulock had to wait until he was 23, JHS just needs to keep it consistent and keep putting work in.

 

[SI90]

Ho-Sang is 22. I repeat, Ho-Sang is 22

 

[PK Cronin]

Ho-Sang is 22. I repeat, Ho-Sang is 22

AHL lifer!!

 

[Lights911]

I really hope he kills it in Bridgeport and gets called up. I love watching him play, in my opinion he as an it factor and can create so much offense when he is trusting himself and playing his game. I hope he’s up on the team sometime this year

 

[SI90]

I really hope he kills it in Bridgeport and gets called up. I love watching him play, in my opinion he as an it factor and can create so much offense when he is trusting himself and playing his game. I hope he’s up on the team sometime this year

There’s absolutely no reason he shouldn’t be able to do everything that Nylander can do.

 

[Seph]

I really hope he kills it in Bridgeport and gets called up. I love watching him play, in my opinion he as an it factor and can create so much offense when he is trusting himself and playing his game. I hope he’s up on the team sometime this year

While I have no issue with the decision to send him down, I would love nothing more for him to play so well that he forces their hand to call him back up. He has the talent, it's up to him.

 

[Richie Daggers Crime]

There’s absolutely no reason he shouldn’t be able to do everything that Nylander can do.

Well, actually, there are a lot of reasons.

 

[SI90]

Well, actually, there are a lot of reasons.

He’s that talented.