Player Discussion Jordan Weal: To Russia With Love... (Weal To Sign in KHL)

[HabsMD97]

bargain bin strikes again

 

[HabsAddict]

I remember the caps won the cup. Florida with a bunch of borderline 4th liners reached the scf against the Avs too. It doesn't prove anything when it's an exception.

Like the Lighting last year?

The exception is the willingness to commit, not the effectiveness of the strategy.

 

[The Great Weal]

He should have a good season. Wouldn't be surprised if he has 40 points. Stealing Domi wasn't enough so we gave up an AHLer for a 3rd liner.

 

[Archijerej]

We are not going to get elite skills if we don't trust our kids.

Our kids are not going to be elite just because we trust them. They either are elite or they aren't.

 

[26Mats]

Oh he will. 100% sure. I predicted him a 50 points season a couple of weeks ago and i'm positive i'll be right. It's Montreal what else could you expect? Like i said last year Jordan Weal is the last 30 years in a nutshell. Now can he make you eat your words on a cup winning team? Personally i don't think so. He'll be there for a couple of seasons. Fans will acclaim him. Songs will be written to celebrate his accomplishments. He'll be the flavor of the month like Oleg Petrov, Sergei Zholtok, Francis Bouillon and all the others. Then after 3 to 4 years we will eventually trade him and i don't think he'll last longer than 3 years in the league after leaving Montreal. Fans of the team acquiring will wonder why he was so good with us and so bad with them. The answer will be in the TOI stats column and the success of respective teams. Sorry to be so jaded but well after 30 years of the same formula ...

Weal is a 4th liner that has the skills of a 3rd liner.

Who would you rather have on the 4th line, from accross the league?

 

[JianYang]

He should have a good season. Wouldn't be surprised if he has 40 points. Stealing Domi wasn't enough so we gave up an AHLer for a 3rd liner.

I was impressed with him last year.

I think of him as a potential new age metropolit. Underrated skill guy who could be used up and down the lineup, also on the PP.

40 points is a bit too upper end for me, but I see him as a utlility 30-35 point guy. That wouldn't be shabby at all either.

He's basically what the habs were hoping peca would be, IMO.

 

[Eegs]

Was just HockeyDB'ing our guy Jordan. Found a pretty amazing stat.

When he played for the Regina Pats in 2011-2012, he put up 41 goals and 116 points.

Closest player to him in points on the Pats had 55 points.

I don't think i've ever seen such a gap!

Anywho, carry on, just thought i'd share.

 

[ahmedou]

An average player. And that's fine. No disrespect, he isn't the type of project where we should afford all of our energy on it.

 

[Andrei79]

An average player. And that's fine. No disrespect, he isn't the type of project where we should afford all of our energy on it.

Agreed.

He's good depth, but that's about it. Neither has the offense, the play without the puck or any intangible to take a roster spot up over guys like Suzuki, Poehling or KK.

 

[Tighthead]

Our kids are not going to be elite just because we trust them. They either are elite or they aren't.

So their outcome as players doesn't involve coaching, deployment or development in any fashion? It is just fate?

Is it your actual interpretation of that comment that he was suggesting trust alone was going to make players elite?

 

[26Mats]

An average player. And that's fine. No disrespect, he isn't the type of project where we should afford all of our energy on it.

Agreed.

He's good depth, but that's about it. Neither has the offense, the play without the puck or any intangible to take a roster spot up over guys like Suzuki, Poehling or KK.

I was curious to see if he could be Shaw's replacement. The Tampa game was his first and only game on Domi's wing. It didn't go well. I think he'll get another shot. But I'd like to see Poehling get a shot.

As for Suzuki, I'd like to see how he looks centering his own line more than seeing him get another shot on Domi's wing.

Perhaps Thomspon-Suzuki-Weal 0r Cousins-Suzuki-Weal/Thompson.

 

[The Great Weal]

Still think he can score somewhere between 30-40 points. Good trade for sure, but my god this guy's usage is ridiculous.

 

[TannedBum]

Extremely limited offensively and completely useless defensively(the main reason why he's scratched and why this is his 4th club in 4 years). His usage is now as it should be= popcorn.

 

[Archijerej]

So their outcome as players doesn't involve coaching, deployment or development in any fashion? It is just fate?

Is it your actual interpretation of that comment that he was suggesting trust alone was going to make players elite?

No, I'm obviously exaggerating. My point is, you can trust a young player as much as you like, but if he does not have high end potential, all of this trust is not gonna do you much good. To quote a famous coach Joseph Stalin: "trust, but verify".

 

[Tighthead]

No, I'm obviously exaggerating. My point is, you can trust a young player as much as you like, but if he does not have high end potential, all of this trust is not gonna do you much good.

So play it safe and don't trust them.

 

[Archijerej]

So play it safe and don't trust them.

No. Observe them on the ice, observe them off the ice, don't engage in wishful thinking and adjust accordingly. There is a much greater chance of hurting real talent by forcing it to perform a role it's not ready to perform, than by underutilizing it.

 

[CauZuki]

Poor Jordan out of the lineup, he must feel like the 3rd weal...

 

[sandviper]

I didn’t check facts or validate, but this wouldn’t surprise me.

 

[frapp10]

I didn’t check facts or validate, but this wouldn’t surprise me.

Unbelievable lol

 

[angusyoung]

I didn’t check facts or validate, but this wouldn’t surprise me.

It's not correct. BTW, KK and BG have only 1 point as well.

 

[dkd]

It's not correct. BTW, KK and BG have only 1 point as well.

Reread the tweet.

 

[JuJu Mobb]

This guy brings absolutely nothing. He's redundant on our team.

Time to end this Weal experiment.

 

[26Mats]

This guy brings absolutely nothing. He's redundant on our team.

Time to end this Weal experiment.

hopefully when everyone's healthy:

Tatar Danault Gallagher
Poehling Domi Suzuki
Drouin KK Armia
Byron Thompson Lehkonen
Cousins

 

[Tuggy]

This guy brings absolutely nothing. He's redundant on our team.

Time to end this Weal experiment.

Yeah, he needs to go.

Give Poehling a chance with Suzuki on Saturday.

 

[angusyoung]

This guy brings absolutely nothing. He's redundant on our team.

Time to end this Weal experiment.

Not a lot of options as he has shown more than Hudon or Barber. He also needs to shoot more,passes too often. Skates decently,handles the puck well,but like Eller,ends up turns in to nothing. He's not the reason habs are battling for a PO spot,others are more,or should be held more accountable with the expectation that were put upon them.