Confirmed with Link: Jordan Schmaltz Traded for Andreas Borgman

[Thallis]

Why would you call him borgy when you can call him borger???

 

[Spear]

Why would you call him borgy when you can call him borger???

Or just, The BORG

 

[ChicagoBlues]

I think his nickname should be Dimmu Borgir.

 

[simon IC]

I have mixed feelings about this trade. In the end, I honestly think we got the better player, so I can't really complain too loudly. However, we only had two RD prospects, and we trade one for a LD? We have Dunn, Bouwmeester, Gunnarsson, Edmundson, Pouliot and now Borgman on LD. We also have Mikkola, Perunovich and Walman in the system. Couldn't you find another RD prospect, Doug?

 

[kimzey59]

I have mixed feelings about this trade. In the end, I honestly think we got the better player, so I can't really complain too loudly. However, we only had two RD prospects, and we trade one for a LD? We have Dunn, Bouwmeester, Gunnarsson, Edmundson, Pouliot and now Borgman on LD. We also have Mikkola, Perunovich and Walman in the system. Couldn't you find another RD prospect, Doug?

Bouwmeester and Gunnar are ancient and have been injury prone the last couple years.
Eddy couldn't keep himself in the lineup last year.
Pouliot has been incredibly inconsistent throughout his NHL career.
Mikkola and Walman are completely untested.
Perunovich isn't even in the mix yet.

Dunn is the only LHD on the roster that can really be considered "reliable". We definitely need some viable depth there. Let's not forget; even with all the supposed depth we had lat year, we still had to have Butler play 14 games.

 

[AlexGretzchenvid]

"TRADE ALERT! #stlblues acquire defenseman Andreas Borgman from the Toronto Maple Leafs. DETAILS: (link: http://bit.ly/2Mfi1u8) bit.ly/2Mfi1u8"

Lmao

Toronto.

 

[bleedblue1223]

I have mixed feelings about this trade. In the end, I honestly think we got the better player, so I can't really complain too loudly. However, we only had two RD prospects, and we trade one for a LD? We have Dunn, Bouwmeester, Gunnarsson, Edmundson, Pouliot and now Borgman on LD. We also have Mikkola, Perunovich and Walman in the system. Couldn't you find another RD prospect, Doug?

Doug found a RD, just not a prospect.

 

[Blueston]

Schmaltz on waivers today. Borgman not only looking good but he is waivers exempt too. Minor trade but this definitely looking like a win for us.

 

[LetsGoBooze]

Another good trade by DA. Also, if we wanna keep our 3 RD longterm, we will need serviceable LD on cheapish contracts, Borg could fit that mold.

 

[stl76]

I've really liked what I've seen from Borgman so far in the preseason. If he can stay healthy, he can absolutely play on an NHL bottom pairing and perform well IMO.

 

[BlueDream]

Well, didn't take long for Jordan "Bust" Schmaltz to prove to people that pretty much nobody is a downgrade from him. He's awful.

 

[rumrokh]

Well, didn't take long for Jordan "Bust" Schmaltz to prove to people that pretty much nobody is a downgrade from him. He's awful.

I was about to say I thought he was serviceable in the "few NHL games" he's had, but the dude played TWENTY games for the Blues last season and I have no memory of that. Either he's one of the most forgettable players I've seen or I blocked it out because their record during that span was so bad.

 

[BlueDream]

I was about to say I thought he was serviceable in the "few NHL games" he's had, but the dude played TWENTY games for the Blues last season and I have no memory of that. Either he's one of the most forgettable players I've seen or I blocked it out because their record during that span was so bad.

He's really that forgettable. He's an 'offensive' defensemen that doesn't provide offense so he basically does nothing.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

Schmaltz on waivers today. Borgman not only looking good but he is waivers exempt too. Minor trade but this definitely looking like a win for us.

He’ll clear waivers, so it’s not that bad for Toronto. Maybe they’ll end up calling him up as depth. In that sense they’re both still simply NHL depth players, just opposite sides.

But I’d rather have Borgman.

 

[Antropovsky]

Schmaltz on waivers today. Borgman not only looking good but he is waivers exempt too. Minor trade but this definitely looking like a win for us.

Leafs sent him packing to give him an opportunity...as well they wanted a RD.

Even if the Leafs still had him, he wouldn't have made their Nhl roster. Borgman seemed to be an ok player for the leafs in the nhl... but for some reason Babcock didn't seem to like him, and in the AHL I'm pretty sure Keefe didnt even have him sniff his top pairing. For this reason I'm curious to see how Borgs pans out in the NHL this time around.(mind you he's been pretty injury prone)

If schmaltz is serviceable RH option for the Marlies in the Ahl... then it's a good trade for the Leafs too.

* EDIT thought this was the main board.

 

[Renard]

So does Borgman open the season in Edmundson's vacated spot? Or do we play Faulk there?

 

[Blueston]

Leafs sent him packing to give him an opportunity...as well they wanted a RD.

Even if the Leafs still had him, he wouldn't have made their Nhl roster. Borgman seemed to be an ok player for the leafs in the nhl... but for some reason Babcock didn't seem to like him, and in the AHL I'm pretty sure Keefe didnt even have him sniff his top pairing. For this reason I'm curious to see how Borgs pans out in the NHL this time around.(mind you he's been pretty injury prone)

If schmaltz is serviceable RH option for the Marlies in the Ahl... then it's a good trade for the Leafs too.

* EDIT thought this was the main board.

That sounds about right. Schmaltz had run out of rope here. Maybe they both benefit from change of scenery and trade is a win for both. Neither side risked much by dealing guy they no longer had in plans.

 

[Crazy Monkey]

Lmao

Toronto.

You're a habs fan

LMAO

 

[Falco Lombardi]

You're a habs fan

LMAO

And this is a Blues board. Away with you.

Anyway, the trade looks good. I’ve no doubt Army had a feeling he was always going to move Edmundson and the Borg has had a promising camp. Might not pay dividends this season but a year from now at the latest, I think he’s a bottom 4 defender for the cost of one of the rare complete busts we’ve drafted early.

 

[Ranksu]

Has Borgman > Mikkola at pre-season?

 

[Crazy Monkey]

And this is a Blues board. Away with you.

Anyway, the trade looks good. I’ve no doubt Army had a feeling he was always going to move Edmundson and the Borg has had a promising camp. Might not pay dividends this season but a year from now at the latest, I think he’s a bottom 4 defender for the cost of one of the rare complete busts we’ve drafted early.

Originally thought it was the main board. Not that it matters given the content of the thread. And especially since I like St Louis...

Not sure why you felt obliged to reply.

 

[Blueston]

Has Borgman > Mikkola at pre-season?

He looks more NHL ready than Mikkola I think. Would like to see Mikkola make quicker decisions with puck.

 

[Renard]

Has Borgman > Mikkola at pre-season?

I don't know the answer to your question. I assume Borgman has the upper hand because of his NHL experience.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

So does Borgman open the season in Edmundson's vacated spot? Or do we play Faulk there?

There are still 7 defensive players ahead of Borgman and Mikkola on the depth chart. Neither starts in Edmundson’s spot.

 

[Renard]

There are still 7 defensive players ahead of Borgman and Mikkola on the depth chart. Neither starts in Edmundson’s spot.

How could I have forgotten about Boom Boom Gunnarsson? Borgman didn't make the team, but he impressed the coach, it seems from Berube's comments.

Gunnarsson is often injured, so I'm sure we'll get to see Borgman a lot this year.