Player Discussion Jonathan Drouin: To C Or Not to C

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I think Drouin can give more. 60 points or more this season i predict. He can be a 70 points if he is more consistent, he got the talent but he need to work on his consistency.
Consistency is EXACTLY what makes great players so great... "work on consistency" so many players fit that bill... If only Ryder was consistent... AK46.....etc.
 
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i mean the guy probably hasn't even talked to his coach, he played Center last year, he's being asked by media center question, what do you expect him to answer? he's just trying to show confidence and thats perfectly fine to me! Unless he realy watched video and somehow unleash at center at the begening of the year ( lets face it, it's very unlikely even tho he did finish the season decently at center.) If kotkaniemi and poehling pan out or even either one, do you realy think Drouin wont play on either wing? he woud THRIVE with other talent around him at his natural positon. like i said he just turned 23... the kid is here for years. contract is gonna end up being a steal.

im probably one of the few habs fan who liked the trade at the time and still like it. Drouin will break out at some point.

So why give him 5.5 million dollars right from the get go? The guy came here with 29 goals to his credit and here you go Jonathan(expect the unexpected)here's 33 million big ones. It's not like he had the production of JVR or Pacioretty behind him, there was no reason to make him the highest paid forward on the team. Bergevin gave him the money so it's tough to feel sorry for either of them and don't you expect that fans will be a little underwhelmed when we get to see what we saw from him last season?
 

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I think Drouin can give more. 60 points or more this season i predict. He can be a 70 points if he is more consistent, he got the talent but he need to work on his consistency.
Just who do you think he will be playing with. He wasn't a goalscorer and we no longer have anyone for him to pass to outside Gally. Chuck is gone and Patches is on the block. Byron is injured to start the year. I guess Drouin will have magically become a 35 goalscorer this year despite his career 42 goals?

Oh right Max "I got half my goals from open nets last season" Domi and his career 36 goals in 222 games is a diamond in the rough. I would just love to know who these playmakers are going to pass to.
 
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i mean the guy probably hasn't even talked to his coach, he played Center last year, he's being asked by media center question, what do you expect him to answer? he's just trying to show confidence and thats perfectly fine to me! Unless he realy watched video and somehow unleash at center at the begening of the year ( lets face it, it's very unlikely even tho he did finish the season decently at center.) If kotkaniemi and poehling pan out or even either one, do you realy think Drouin wont play on either wing? he woud THRIVE with other talent around him at his natural positon. like i said he just turned 23... the kid is here for years. contract is gonna end up being a steal.

im probably one of the few habs fan who liked the trade at the time and still like it. Drouin will break out at some point.

he's showing confidence by throwing a former teamate ( who WAS a better center than he is) under the bus ?? Its that kind of confidence that the habs do not need. Wait did I say confidence ? I meant entitlement.

he did NOT finish the season decently at center, he may not have been as awful as he was for the most of it, but that does not make him good. and I am sick and tired of this " put him on a line with better players and he will do better" nonsense. who the hell WOULDN'T be more productive with better linemates? What we want, nay what we need, is for that little bastard to make HIS linemates better something he has so far shown to be completely unable to do. why because he's lazy with a capital L and lacks all of the skills one seeks in a center.

He's 23 years old, has a failed season as a center by EVERY salient metric and you want to double down like he's holding the fort for some kid to eventually come in on his white horse. This position is completely confusing, if you want him to be a good winger, here's a thought, the 23 year old kid should freaking play on the wing. If his game is still developing, let him develop as a winger not some winger/center tweener. If you want him to play center, we gwet more of last year where he is, by order of magnitudes the worst 1C in the leage ( hell Danault is a better center than he is, and that aint saying much).

Jonathan drouin. not a center, and if you keep forcing him into it, perhaps not a winger either.
 
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Geez, maybe give the guy another chance? I guess all of you guys were perfectly balanced when you were 23? Cut the kid some slack, 90% of you were happy after the trade last year, one bad year doesn't make a career, especially when the whole team is putrid.
 
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he's showing confidence by throwing a former teamate ( who WAS a better center than he is) under the bus ?? Its that kind of confidence that the habs do not need. Wait did I say confidence ? I meant entitlement.

How in the world did he throw his former teammate under the bus?

Horrible interpretation skills, but when you're biased you're really biased.
 

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Geez, maybe give the guy another chance? I guess all of you guys were perfectly balanced when you were 23? Cut the kid some slack, 90% of you were happy after the trade last year, one bad year doesn't make a career, especially when the whole team is putrid.

The worst is that 95% of this board were rooting for Chucky to get another chance at center even he was also bad... Like seriously I just don't f***ing get it!

Drouin is being a victim of the Bergevin hate it's so freaking obvious.
 

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Drouin is being a victim of the Bergevin hate it's so freaking obvious.

No he's not. Drouin is a victim of his own terrible performance last season. He was f***ing brutal, man.

If Drouin comes out next season and plays lights out, scores 60+ points while actually looking like he cares, and shows the potential we all know he has, then I'll be the first one lined up to gladly eat my own words and buy a Drouin jersey.

He's getting piled on because he flat out sucked at hockey last season. You think we seriously want a young, dynamic, skilled, forward to fail? Something we desperately need going forward? Lol, come on man.
 

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No he's not. Drouin is a victim of his own terrible performance last season. He was ****ing brutal, man.

If Drouin comes out next season and plays lights out, scores 60+ points while actually looking like he cares, and shows the potential we all know he has, then I'll be the first one lined up to gladly eat my own words and buy a Drouin jersey.

He's getting piled on because he flat out sucked at hockey last season. You think we seriously want a young, dynamic, skilled, forward to fail? Something we desperately need going forward? Lol, come on man.

Yeah, Golden Boy was also brutal ffs! But there was always some kind of excuse in his case!

Drouin is just getting murdered... :facepalm:

And were this whole looking like he cares thing even appeared? Sounds like some massive preconceived bias due to his shenanigans in Tampa organization!

I didn't saw this whole sulking and terrible attitude some of you keep bringing up.
 

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Yeah, Golden Boy was also brutal ffs! But there was always some kind of excuse in his case!

Drouin is just getting murdered... :facepalm:

And were this whole looking like he cares thing even appeared? Sounds like some massive preconceived bias due to his shenanigans in Tampa organization!

I didn't saw this whole sulking and terrible attitude some of you keep bringing up.

Because you're biased in favour of Drouin. Theres a reason the majority of people who watched him play last season agree that he was terrible, lazy, and disinterested... because he was.

Also, that double standard you talk about applies both ways. You always screamed and cried about how lazy, uninterested, and bad Galchenyuk was, yet you are totally blind to Drouin, who's even worse. Why do you support Drouin when last season he was basically a worse version of Galchenyuk, a player you always rant about?

Also, stop bringing up Galchenyuk with me. He's gone, and I already told you many times I'm done beating that drum with you. It's time for you to find another scape goat because you've beaten this one to death and he's not even here anymore.
 

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How in the world did he throw his former teammate under the bus?

Horrible interpretation skills, but when you're biased you're really biased.

he said that he was going to play center " not like galchenyuk" meaning he wasn't going to get pulled and thrown to the wing. For someone that played as poorly as he did last year, throwing stones is not a great idea.

I'm not worrired about drouin breaking out with a 60 point season, or Sergachev going to the K. If there is something to be worried about, its galchenyuk outpreforming drouin on an team that is at least close proximally to how bad we are going to be.

Jonathan drouin, depite all of his one failed experience at center, has NEVER made his linemates better. He's sooooo bad at it, that even his supporters are depedent on guys who have yet to play a single game in the NHL in order for him to have success. And if those guys don't pan out, the appologists will, again, be in full force.

He wasnt a center last year, he's not a center now, he will NEVER be a center in the NHL. He has a good chance to be a good complimentary winger, FCS then play him on the wing where he has the best chances of a) developping and b) having long term success in the nhl.
 

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Because you're biased in favour of Drouin. Theres a reason the majority of people who watched him play last season agree that he was terrible, lazy, and disinterested... because he was.

Also, that double standard you talk about applies both ways. You always screamed and cried about how lazy, uninterested, and bad Galchenyuk was, yet you are totally blind to Drouin, who's even worse. Why do you support Drouin when last season he was basically a worse version of Galchenyuk, a player you always rant about?

Also, stop bringing up Galchenyuk with me. He's gone, and I already told you many times I'm done beating that drum with you. It's time for you to find another scape goat because you've beaten this one to death and he's not even here anymore.

I'm so f***ing not biased in favor of Drouin!

Go read some other threads!

I've been clearly stating that he sucked last year! I'm not sugarcoating anything! I'm not trying to blame Bergevin the coach and his dad!

Drouin was bad last season!

I never saw you say Golden Boy was bad!

he said that he was going to play center " not like galchenyuk" meaning he wasn't going to get pulled and thrown to the wing. For someone that played as poorly as he did last year, throwing stones is not a great idea.

I'm not worrired about drouin breaking out with a 60 point season, or Sergachev going to the K. If there is something to be worried about, its galchenyuk outpreforming drouin on an team that is at least close proximally to how bad we are going to be.

Jonathan drouin, depite all of his one failed experience at center, has NEVER made his linemates better. He's sooooo bad at it, that even his supporters are depedent on guys who have yet to play a single game in the NHL in order for him to have success. And if those guys don't pan out, the appologists will, again, be in full force.

He wasnt a center last year, he's not a center now, he will NEVER be a center in the NHL. He has a good chance to be a good complimentary winger, FCS then play him on the wing where he has the best chances of a) developping and b) having long term success in the nhl.

Yeah... That's what I'm talking about, he actually never said that, or in that manner.
 

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Yeah, Golden Boy was also brutal ffs! But there was always some kind of excuse in his case!

Drouin is just getting murdered... :facepalm:

And were this whole looking like he cares thing even appeared? Sounds like some massive preconceived bias due to his shenanigans in Tampa organization!

I didn't saw this whole sulking and terrible attitude some of you keep bringing up.

and if the golden boy was not good, this doesnt change the fact that drouin was also bad. he doesnt get to be " comparitively not as bad".

why don't you address drouin on his merits, not comparisons to other players ? its really easy, it can be summed up in five little words.

Jonathan Drouin. Not a center.

And how preciselt is he getting murdered ? he was AWFUL last year and is STILL getting slotted into one c, whereas the golden boy ( who admittedly did not have a good year on the wing) got shipped outta town for another empty net specialist.

Drouin isnt getting " murdered" he's getting it EASY, despite the fact he can't win a draw and floats all over the ice. that you deny that he's lazy really brings into question your objectivity or your hold on reality.

lazy with a capital L. He might even me lazier than max, and that's damning indeed.
 
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and if the golden boy was not good, this doesnt change the fact that drouin was also bad. he doesnt get to be " comparitively not as bad".

why don't you address drouin on his merits, not comparisons to other players ? its really easy, it can be summed up in five little words.

Jonathan Drouin. Not a center.

And how preciselt is he getting murdered ? he was AWFUL last year and is STILL getting slotted into one c, whereas the golden boy ( who admittedly did not have a good year on the wing) got shipped outta town for another empty net specialist.

Drouin isnt getting " murdered" he's getting it EASY, despite the fact he can't win a draw and floats all over the ice. that you deny that he's lazy really brings into question your objectivity or your hold on reality.

lazy with a capital L. He might even me lazier than max, and that's damning indeed.

Again! Show me a post where I'm praising Drouin!
 

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I think Drouin can give more. 60 points or more this season i predict. He can be a 70 points if he is more consistent, he got the talent but he need to work on his consistency.
Consistency? You think that's what he lacked? No dis respect intended here, did you watch the games last year? Or just look at the boxscores?

Drouin was so bad, at everything, but being bad last year.............the golden boy had the worst attitude and effort of the entire gang, but he is untouchable because he can chat with MB in french...let's just call a spade a spade.

I do expect a rebound season, but anything, anything will be better than last year. Would think he would be better on the wing, but then again it's Montreal, we love to set people up, to fail...
 

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So I am guessing this rumor about him being injured at a charity game wasn't true?
 

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The worst is that 95% of this board were rooting for Chucky to get another chance at center even he was also bad... Like seriously I just don't ****ing get it!

Drouin is being a victim of the Bergevin hate it's so freaking obvious.
Galchenyuk, for all of his flaws, was developped as a center.

Drouin was developped as a winger, so its clear that he should get MORE of a chance to magically become a NHL center.

priorities, priorities.

and has that "hate" stopped him from being a 1C ( his ineptitude takes good care of that). was he traded for an EN specialist ?

ooooh pooor jonathan drouin who, despite never being a center, gets to pretend to be one no matter HOW badly he plays and doesnt get shipped out to arizona but gets to be the teams highest plaid forward immediately signed to an extension.

Yeah, he's the victim in all of this. poor poor jonathan drouin. still not a center.
 
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