Jon Jones tested CLEAN! The GOAT is back

[stayontch]

Jones passed multiple drug tests after UFC 232

Hell yeah! The king is back

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[NinjaKick]

it was the last grasp at a straw for his haters
Jones is the Goat

 

[LSCII]

Uh no. It makes his positive tests before even more suspect. If they were truly metabolites from 18 months ago, why have they continually disappeared and reappeared in subsequent tests? If he had old metabolites in his system it would be consistent and trip on every test.
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Man you guys are such fanbois that you miss this. Weak sauce. lol

 

[SuperScript29]

Uh no. It makes his positive tests before even more suspect.

Not if the pulsing effect is real, which it seems to be based on the test results that have been revealed since the summer of 2018.

From what I read, it looks like he tested positive for the same metabolite back in August and September, then he had a few negative tests, then positive again in December, and now it's negative again. On the surface one may assume that he's cycling, the issue here is that the metabolite they're finding is a long term one and in a very tiny amount. If he was cycling within the past few months, he would have short or medium metabolites in his system.

 

[LSCII]

Not if the pulsing effect is real, which it seems to be based on the test results that have been revealed since the summer of 2018.

From what I read, it looks like he tested positive for the same metabolite back in August and September, then he had a few negative tests, then positive again in December, and now it's negative again. On the surface one may assume that he's cycling, the issue here is that the metabolite they're finding is a long term one and in a very tiny amount. If he was cycling within the past few months, he would have short or medium metabolites in his system.

I think the article on MMA fighting that quoted Victor Conte's (former BALCO president) theory that the metabolites were from cross contamination with what substance he was really taking makes the most sense to me.

 

[Rocko604]

So the "long term metabolites" appear in his test 6 days before the fight, we're giving this pulsing effect BS from Nowitizki (who wrongly attributed Rodchenkov, as the whole pulsing effect was discovered in just one person, who was a middle-aged non-athlete) and then all of a sudden there are zero metabolites in his system the day of the fight?

It's not so much whether Jones cheated or not. What raises the red flag for me is all the discrepancies and contradictions by USADA. Bottom line is, they're winging it. And when their parent organization, WADA, is coming out and admitting they have no clue how certain substances work in the body (see the Chris Froome debacle), it's hard to hold them with high esteem. It should be more clear than ever now that if you have the money to defend yourself, and have a billion dollar company in your corner, USADA will take care of you.

We'll see what happens when Nevada tests him in March. End of the day, it's pathetic that Jones testing "clean" has become breaking news.

 

[torero]

Happy that he is back.

I am not a Jones hater ... i love DC .... not the same.
but Jones is also a good one and an amazing fighter.

(i still think that nobody gave a try at his legs under the knees in a good old Muay Thai way ... )

But yess ... he has been the best. (disputably since the last fight against DC he was helped by some substances)

This aside ... he is the best.

 

[YNWA14]

What exactly does him testing clean change?

 

[LyricalLyricist]

What exactly does him testing clean change?

Nothing for me.

USADA came into affect mid 2015.

Early 2015(UFC 182) he fought DC and someone said his testosterone ratios were alarmingly out of place.

UFC 200 he tested positive

UFC 214 he tested positive.

UFC 232 he tested positive.

That means in 4 years he's had one fight where he didn't test positive. It's nuts...

 

[zombie kopitar]

Early 2015(UFC 182) he fought DC and someone said his testosterone ratios were alarmingly out of place.

They weren't just out of place, his testosterone count was straight up that of a 90 year old woman....something like a count of 40 IIRC

(i'm not sure if that's the time if it happened, but he was definitely tested for something around that)

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

About that....

 

[Matty Sundin]

About that....

It's too the point I'm more suprised he pissed clean then piss dirty

 

[tmurfin]

The funniest thing is, no one cares. The UFC and Novitzky have swept it up so much, Jones could fail every f***ing test for the rest of his career for his shit and no one would care.

 

[1specter]

The funniest thing is, no one cares. The UFC and Novitzky have swept it up so much, Jones could fail every ****ing test for the rest of his career for his **** and no one would care.

Yep, VADA test came back with the metabolite but again they're using the same 'pulsing' garbage. Jon has a free pass now every time he pops for this substance.

Trace amount of same steroid metabolite found in Jon Jones’ UFC 232 VADA test results

 

[darko]

Turns out miracles do happen.

 

[YNWA14]

So I guess the question is...if he never took PEDs in the first place (as he claims) and it was some accidental pinch of salt in an olympic sized swimming pool amount how does it buck the trend in other studies of only leaving trace amounts for 2-3 months? How do his picograms per mL keep going up?

I'm no scientist so I'd love to hear how this whole explanation really works. Sounds like Jon Jones 'accidentally' took a 'trace amount' of Turinabol in some kind of pill or food and his body is now multiplying and pulsing it indefinitely. That's mighty strange.

 

[m9]

For those who are looking to be a bit more informed on the topic, Luke Thomas has had CSAC's Andy Foster on his show a couple times in the last month or so and he's been great at explaining everything. I'm sure you can find the info out there.

The best way to term it is that they are continuously learning about the subject. People can think whatever they want about Jones, but more importantly everyone involved has learned how to interpret these tests so that in the future they will properly be able to punish the guys who are cheating.