Jussi
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Since 1967 actually (and 1947 if you count Vesa). There was about 3 years of stability in the 90s but it was still pretty wild.
Kekäläinen gave hope of stability but then it all went away...
Since 1967 actually (and 1947 if you count Vesa). There was about 3 years of stability in the 90s but it was still pretty wild.
KHL is a russian league. I don't understand why Jokerit joined russian league I want Jokerit back to SM Liiga not to russia!!! hopefully soon
There are a lot of non-Russian teams in this league. Hence it is not completely Russian.
According just about every Russian poster here, it is a Russian league. All the decisions are made in Moscow as well so it is essentially a Russian league in that aspect as well.
Harkimo should have just cut the budget to €2 million or even less if his financial situation was bad enough that he couldn't supply Jokerit with €3.5 million payroll. But instead he took the easy route... and sold us in the same boat. with these figures i mean player salaries not overall budget obviously. we haven t won the ****ing title for 12 years and its going to continue cos we have very slim chance of winning anything in russia. also a very uncertain league and so forth.
Between 1946 & 1967 four of six NHL teams were based in the US however the NHL's head office was located in Montreal. Did that make the NHL a Canadian controlled entity? Obviously no, not at all. The league was essentially controlled by the Norris family, owners of Detroit & Chicago, major shareholders of Madison Square Gardens & by rote the NY Rangers, and, they'd lent money to the Bruins to keep them afloat ergo Boston as well beholden to Norris interests..... post 1967 Expansion with the addition of 6 additional US teams, Clarence Campbells retirement, the appointment of former Norris Council with Detroit John Ziegler as new NHL President & the relocation of NHL Head Office to New York, does that mean formally the NHL & hockey is now effectively controlled by American interests? Of course. Does it matter? No. They merely control the top echelon, the best league, but they dont control hockey the game be it Canada, Sweden, Finland, Russia or anywhere else. Its strictly a business. These clubs, the league & its owners, their not visionaries, stewards of the game.
Ya well see youve written them off before giving it a chance. How do you know Jokerit wont take the KHL by storm & do some serious damage, kick some butt? Your assuming the club will now & henceforth be little more than Puppets to what you perceive as being over~arching megalomaniac Russian Oligarch's who control the KHL from Moscow. Thats not gunna fly. Either Jokerit (and elsewhere not located in Russia) plays on an even surface or they will implode because fans wont stand for it. They wont show up if theres even the slightest hint that the club is merely a decorative feather in the KHL's cap, who have no chance of winning a league championship, that the whole set~up is rigged. But lets say they instead come out flying, and your entertained by the product & quality of play. It's worth the shot in my opinion. Keep an open mind, see how things pan out.... But sure, approach with caution. Look at how the NHL handicapped Expansion Teams & the in-bound WHA teams in 79/80. Hopefully the powers that be, such as they are within the KHL dont make the same mistakes. If they do, Jokerits' history & it'll be a cold day in Hell before that leagues ever welcomed back into Finland.
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It's wrong to compare the NHL and KHL as the KHL originated from the RSL.
Ya, and?........ the NHL morphed from & was essentially the NHA; the NHA morphed from & was essentially a combination of the OPHL, Federal Hockey League & others. The point stands Jussi. There are parallels & similar examples to the early days (and to some extent analogous to the WHA, WCHL & PCHA) of the development & growth of top tier professional hockey in North America to the KHL & its ambitions in becoming the best professional league throughout Europe, Scandinavia & Russia. Its not "wrong to compare them" at all.
NHL was never intended to be a national league for one country. KHL's roots have always been from a league for Russian teams. So yes, it is wrong to compare them.
Oh? Seems your unaware of the history of the professional game in North America Jussi.
I'm more than aware of the origins of the NHL. Finnish hockey magazine Jääkiekkolehti ran a series of stories on the origins of the NHL. The big difference is that it's origins were local leagues of just about anywhere where they could play hockey with a decent setting. It wasn't A Canadian championship league operating under Hockey Canada. KHL's origins comes from a league operating under Russian federation and still they cannot operate fully without approval from the federation. NHL has never had that link or issue.
Are you sure KHL is actually federational league? Even Finnish League is not. Of course Finland affects in all the possible ways. Anyway the KHL must come from somewhere. If it came from Finland, it would have alot of affect from here. Somebody had to start the league. Europe didin't get anything done good before KHL. Now they are desperately putting up CHL (which doesn't really differ so much from earlier failed projects if we are honest), which they do only because KHL is there and they're afraid.
I'm more than aware of the origins of the NHL. Finnish hockey magazine Jääkiekkolehti ran a series of stories on the origins of the NHL. The big difference is that it's origins were local leagues of just about anywhere where they could play hockey with a decent setting. It wasn't A Canadian championship league operating under Hockey Canada. KHL's origins comes from a league operating under Russian federation and still they cannot operate fully without approval from the federation. NHL has never had that link or issue.
But who know maybe in 10-15 years we can have some sort of Club World Cup in the summer, between the NHL and KHL.
I doubt we'll ever see that. NHL is scared of losing its "monopole" by loosing games to KHL (as we saw a few years ago).
BTW it's nice to see a Canadian showing interest in the KHL instead of calling it a bush league and comparing it to AHL...