Killion
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I doubt we'll ever see that. NHL is scared of losing its "monopoly" by loosing games to KHL (as we saw a few years ago).
BTW it's nice to see a Canadian showing interest in the KHL instead of calling it a bush league and comparing it to AHL...
I would call it developing.
They have a grand vision for the KHL that will take time and dedication I just hope it comes to fruition, because the idea is a great one for the game.
In Helsingin Sanomat yesterday, Jokerit GM Kohonen said he estimates the overall budget to be "under 25 million euros". Sponsorship income would be about 8 million euros. The plan is to "be profitable". Since the ticket prices will about the same but with possibly less home games than last season, even with the 11K average attendance they're hoping for, where's the rest of the money supposed to come from?
Definitely is not "Bush League".
I know, but people in North America keep saying that and it enrages me. Plus, most of people saying that never watched a single KHL game.
Most hockey fans in north america also have not watched a single AHL game. It's NHL and nothing else.
Based on how people sterotype the NHL game as dump & chase exposes to me that that person hasn't watched NHL games (involving Hawks and Kings for example) either.
Kings are most guilty for doing it.
Even with the 11k attadance, where is the rest of money coming
How do you know the sponsor deals will be only 8m? If one sponsor (for away games) is alone 5m. Also, they have said they get money from television deal. Those two first. Why would they say they try to make legit budget if they don't? And why would they not when they see what happened on Praha. They can't actually be trusting on charity makers as a plan.
http://www.suomikiekko.com/2014/07/...in-vahan-hammastynyt-silla-han-ei-sanonut-ei/
Teemu surprises Jokerit and doesn't say no for next season at this point.
Kurri: I'm bit surprised, as Teemu didin't say no. Teemu said he is not yet ready to make the decision of playing in Jokerit or not in next season. We'll be back in discussion probably after july.
It's typical for him to decide late. At least, that's what he did in the NHL, right? He waited once even into a season to resign. Perhaps that is what will happen with the KHL... he may wait a month or two in...
This could be mentioned in other threads as well but an indication of the difference in sports sponsorship in the Nordic countries: http://www.hs.fi/urheilu/a1395720685601
Listed in this graph on the left are from left to right, sports, culture and other while the graph on the right shows the amount of money used for sports sponsorship in Finland, Sweden and Norway:
This could be mentioned in other threads as well but an indication of the difference in sports sponsorship in the Nordic countries: http://www.hs.fi/urheilu/a1395720685601
Listed in this graph on the left are from left to right, sports, culture and other while the graph on the right shows the amount of money used for sports sponsorship in Finland, Sweden and Norway:
In addition to being well ahead in in the amount of money, the trend has been growing in Sweden and Norway while declining in Finland. So it's no wonder Jokerit couldn't raise their sponsorship budget in Finland to 10 million as they hoped.
What in the ****, ruotsi is swedish?
Yep. Heard about that sponsorin culture in Athletics tv-broadcast few years ago. Have heard latelly when all sports leaguese basically hate Veikkaus. Betting companies have potential to be the biggest sponsors, but Veikkaus has monopoly and it basicly doesn't sponsor sports at all. It only gives ridiculous small amount of money and takes all the advantage of "sponsoring".
Nordic bet, who sponsors only Jokerit away games, seems to be brining 5% of the whole Finland's sponsorship for Jokerit in that deal.
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Betting companies have potential to be the biggest sponsors, but Veikkaus has monopoly and it basicly doesn't sponsor sports at all. It only gives ridiculous small amount of money and takes all the advantage of "sponsoring".
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Cool.
Let's not forget to mention, that as a state monopoly administrated by the Ministry of E and C of Finland, at least 25% of all the profits Veikkaus makes goes, by law, to sports and P.E. in Finland. In 2013, Veikkaus made profits of almost 525 m Euros.
Obviously, when it comes to marketing, they operate like any other company; they only make sponsorship deals that make sense and add value to the business. Veikkaus spent 6,6 million Euros on advertising and marketing in 2013. I don't know how much they spend on sponsoring sports, but according to Urheilulehti sports paper the figure was about 4 million Euros in 2012(?).
Why are sports so small market in Finland compared to Sweden, Norway etc.? Probably has something to do with sports simply being less popular here and our economy being much smaller. Like it says in the article Jussi linked, companies just don't see it worth it to spend money on sports marketing, especially now that the economy is stalling. Time for the leagues, clubs and the industry in general to improve their operations and figure out ways to make themselves attractive to sponsors. Crying poor and blaming others is going to achieve absolutely nada.
Jokerit suddenly more than doubling(?) their budget in just one year(or summer) and in this economic climate(Russia's economy is struggling, our economy is struggling, trade between the two nations is on the decline, all the negative publicity due to the crisis in Ukraine and Russia's actions there etc.) tells me they are doing pretty fantastic job at the club... or that they just happened to found Russian billionaires to back them.
What in the ****, ruotsi is swedish?
Are you telling me you didn't know how to say "Sweden" in Finnish?
You should check up some other very strange Finnish names for countries, such as Russia and Germany. It's hilarious.
Them Saxons! I don't have idea where our name for Russia came from though.
It was borrowed from a Proto-Germanic word "wened" (=Slav).