I have the PP solution, Yandle and an impact first line forward. That will cure our PP and 5 on 5 woes, and make whoever is the coach look good. Its about the talent not the coaching.
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We aren't getting Yandle and I think Chayka's and RT's idea of a first line forward is different than your's or mine. Who is fast, small, soft, with no scoring ability? That's who we will zero in on, and oh, around 28 years old.
My point was its not the coach that makes a difference. I agree, no Yandle, any sniper forward might help.
I think a coach can make a big difference, watch Florida this year, but you are right, it's the players that play the game. It's up to Chayka to deliver the players to RT. I just hope RT doesn't have any or much power on who we go after.
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Except adding Yandle or a Yandle type, while curing some PP woes, would open up new problems with our defense.
I'd prefer to find an OEL type, with a scoring touch AND defensive responsibility.
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Yandle would probably help the powerplay, but he's not going to overhaul it single-handedly.
In five of his seven years here full time, our power play was worse than it is now (14.5%, 14.6, 15.9, 13.5, 14.8 vs 16.2, 16.9 under Tocchet). His last two years here we were at 19.9% and 20.0 on the PP. That is when Newell Brown came to town. Jumped from 14.8% to 19.9 overnight.
So I'm pretty sure a good coach will make more of a difference than Yandle. At least when it comes to the PP.
In five of his seven years here full time, our power play was worse than it is now (14.5%, 14.6, 15.9, 13.5, 14.8 vs 16.2, 16.9 under Tocchet). His last two years here we were at 19.9% and 20.0 on the PP. That is when Newell Brown came to town. Jumped from 14.8% to 19.9 overnight.
So I'm pretty sure a good coach will make more of a difference than Yandle. At least when it comes to the PP.
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Yandle would bring some personality to this team though. A guy to root for. Not only do we have zero stars and only one young player with the potential to develop (if he's traded to Chicago) into a star, we really have very little personality. I look at the whole organization right now and just see blah. Another reason to get Doan back into the fold in some capacity.
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They need more people who give a #. If that's Yandle, great. If it's just more third liners who can replace the guys here who don't give a #, that's fine with me now, too.
It's a two-way street, too, I realize. Hard to give a # when you know in November that the season is over, so it'd be nice if ownership/management decided to get these guys some help.
If that's not possible, start on the moose-plan and start dumping futures for guys who give a #. It's not sustainable, but it'd at least help right the culture.
Regardless, I don't know how Keller and co can look themself in the eye at the mirror when Bradley #ing Richardson finished the season with more goals. If that doesn't shame you into putting in a little effort, I'd like you to gtfo.
Our "leadership" core is made of some of the worst offenders in the coasting group.
It's a two-way street, too, I realize. Hard to give a # when you know in November that the season is over, so it'd be nice if ownership/management decided to get these guys some help.
If that's not possible, start on the moose-plan and start dumping futures for guys who give a #. It's not sustainable, but it'd at least help right the culture.
Regardless, I don't know how Keller and co can look themself in the eye at the mirror when Bradley #ing Richardson finished the season with more goals. If that doesn't shame you into putting in a little effort, I'd like you to gtfo.
Our "leadership" core is made of some of the worst offenders in the coasting group.
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Over reacting or what. What this team did this year was almost like a miracle on ice. I think almost every player give it their all. Kuemper, of course was the back bone and is mainly the reason we were in it until the end, but we are still very short on high end talent. We are still a team by committee. The effort was definitely there for the most part, talent wasn't.
We don't have the talent. Cousins, Archibald and Kempe flying around is fun to watch but you don't get much more. Archibald had a career year, but in the big scope of things, it does not move the needle. I think that is one of the reasons we would go on a tear and then go into the tank. When things were hitting on all cylinders it did not look too bad, but when not, we crumbled.
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We have some talent. It just rarely shows up to play. Who are our most talented players? How often did you say to yourself, "wow, OEL really came to play tonight. He's changing this game!" You can do the same for Keller, Stepan, etc. Then divide by 82.
How can you say they were giving it their all this season with a straight face? Richardson shared the team lead in goals with a number smaller than 20! We had a five game losing streak against teams including Vancouver, Edmonton, and New Jersey in "the most important game of the season"-mode where they didn't even look like they were trying.
This ship will never be raised from the shoals by the tide of AHL and fourth-line players trying. They've relied on that for nine years. Still hasn't worked.
Our best players have to be our best players. The guys with talent. The guys collecting the few large checks written by our broke owners. When I say the core is disinterested and doesn't show up to play, rest assured I'm not considering Kempe, Archibald, Cousins, Richardson, et al as core players.
How can you say they were giving it their all this season with a straight face? Richardson shared the team lead in goals with a number smaller than 20! We had a five game losing streak against teams including Vancouver, Edmonton, and New Jersey in "the most important game of the season"-mode where they didn't even look like they were trying.
This ship will never be raised from the shoals by the tide of AHL and fourth-line players trying. They've relied on that for nine years. Still hasn't worked.
Our best players have to be our best players. The guys with talent. The guys collecting the few large checks written by our broke owners. When I say the core is disinterested and doesn't show up to play, rest assured I'm not considering Kempe, Archibald, Cousins, Richardson, et al as core players.
OEL aside, our most talented players are second and third liners. We don't have a McDavid, Eichel, Stamkos, etc. etc. etc. With our budget we can be competitive, but over the long haul, it's hard to win consistently. Richardson had a career year, it happens, good for him. Keller had a terrible year, and he would be the first to admit it, but you forget he is only a kid in uncharted waters. Must have patience with him.
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