Confirmed with Link: Joel Edmundson to Montreal for 2020 5th

[Treb]

Not sure if this is the gist of your question, but Edmundson did play some on the right for the Canes after all the injuries. Particularly he and Skjei formed a very good 2nd pair analytically during the Rangers series. However, I wouldn’t trust him there full time nor do I think he belongs in the top 4 of a playoff team full time

The RD was for Romanov. Ideally, Edmundson would be better than Chiarot so our top pair with Weber is upgraded, or at least our 2nd pair with Petry.

Edmundson/Chiarot - Weber
Edmundson/Chiarot - Petry
Kulak/Mete - Romanov
Kulak/Mete - Juulsen

 

[MrazeksVengeance]

What is your take on Edmundson play this year?

Good in the D zone. Really gritty. Definitely great for a 3rd pair guy who does PK.

Questionable as a 2nd pair though.

 

[GoldiFox]

Nice

More than anything I like this because it indicates that Waddell is working the phones. Hope to see more to come.

Edmundson was a good soldier but he is going to be way overpaid for the 3rd pairing role he would have on the Canes. A free pick is a free pick.

 

[DaveG]

The RD was for Romanov. Ideally, Edmundson would be better than Chiarot so our top pair with Weber is upgraded, or at least our 2nd pair with Petry.

Edmundson/Chiarot - Weber
Edmundson/Chiarot - Petry
Kulak/Mete - Romanov
Kulak/Mete - Juulsen

I mean, he may be better than Chiarot, but I didn't think too much of Chiarot when he was with Winnipeg either. It's possible that Weber could carry him in the same way that Pitkanen was able to carry Jay Harrison making him look competent at one point. But again, I see Eddy as more of a #5 while Chiarot I view as a flat out #6.

 

[Treb]

I mean, he may be better than Chiarot, but I didn't think too much of Chiarot when he was with Winnipeg either. It's possible that Weber could carry him in the same way that Pitkanen was able to carry Jay Harrison making him look competent at one point. But again, I see Eddy as more of a #5 while Chiarot I view as a flat out #6.

That's good enough for me. Weber and Petry can carry their partners, so any upgrade is a plus.

 

[GoldiFox]

Canes had traded away their 5th + 6th round picks so this deal puts them back into the early/mid 5th round. Maybe find another Blake Murray or Tieksola. Or take a flyer on a goalie.

 

[Lempo]

So we got an upgrade for the 2020 5th we sent with Faulk for Edmundson.

Joel Edmundson Trades - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

 

[Canes]

Not sure why the Habs did this. I don't think Edmundson is really that good and if he signs more than 2-3 seasons I doubt he finishes out his contract. His physical game is also extremely overrated.

 

[Unsustainable]

We wasn't keeping him, so good move

 

[FreshSeabass]

Good trade actually surprised they got a 5th for him TBH. Seemed more like a 7th round pick kind of deal, but ill take it. He was decent but I honestly won't miss him. He is going to get overpaid and some other team can enjoy that. As i said in the other threead i think he could be replaced with borowiecki who is a lot more physical.

 

[HisIceness]

What is your take on Edmundson play this year?

Decent player, will stand up for teammates (see Lindholm ), kind of up and down as the season wore on but he can be "Steady Eddy" when things are going right. I thought he played well in the Rangers series for instance.

 

[DaveG]

Decent player, will stand up for teammates (see Lindholm ), kind of up and down as the season wore on but he can be "Steady Eddy" when things are going right. I thought he played well in the Rangers series for instance.

Yep, the Rangers series he and Skjei absolutely ate them alive. They weren't ready for the physical side of things in that matchup and that pairing took advantage in a big way. Again, he's prettymuch exactly what you want for defensive a #5 dman, I don't rate him higher than that but I also can't rate him any lower.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

It's asset management like this that makes me confident that our club will beat Boston someday. Great move for a guy that was going to leave. That makes our 2020 draft haul even better. Late 1st (equivalent) + 5th + 7th is not a bad return for Faulk at all

 

[emptyNedder]

Already know who I hope the Canes pick (I am working on a draft preview): Jake Ratzlaff. Defenseman who hits like a linebacker.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

It's asset management like this that makes me confident that our club will beat Boston someday.

C’mon. A lot of teams make moves like this. A 5th round pick is why we’re going to beat Boston? Also, weren’t you predicting a few months back the Canes Would re-sign Edmundson to a multi year deal?

I think it’s a good move, but no need to make it out to more than it is.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

C’mon. A lot of teams make moves like this. A 5th round pick is why we’re going to beat Boston? Also, weren’t you predicting a few months back the Canes Would re-sign Edmundson to a multi year deal?

I think it’s a good move, but no need to make it out to more than it is.

That was a long-ass time ago that I said that, and that was before Skjei was acquired. Also, it's the mentality, not the move itself. Maximizing assets where you can is always smart.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

That was a long-ass time ago that I said that, and that was before Skjei was acquired. Also, it's the mentality, not the move itself. Maximizing assets where you can is always smart.

yes, maximizing assets assets is smart, but getting a late pick for rights isn’t something unique to Carolina, much less indicative of taking the next step.

 

[HisIceness]

Already know who I hope the Canes pick (I am working on a draft preview): Jake Ratzlaff. Defenseman who hits like a linebacker.

Jake Ratzlaff sounds like the name of a frontman for a pop-punk rock band.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

It's asset management like this that makes me confident that our club will beat Boston someday.

Hank, at a Canes game sometime in 2022, at the coffee kiosk between the 2nd and 3rd period: "y'all, it's mochas like this that make me confident that our club will beat Boston someday."

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

The fawning over the FO is a little cringey. Justifying the logic behind a move in the aftermath is natural, but some have gone overboard in trying to spin decisions as savant-like. You're setting yourselves up for disappointment. They will make mistakes, just like other organizations; Jake Gardiner is already a pretty big whiff, at least at this point. Other fanbases have fallen in love with their team's executives and then fallen out of it. Jim Rutherford was making all the right moves 3 years ago and now people think he's lost it. The Borg will be the Derp at some point.

 

[Daeavorn]

They ARE savants compared to the Hornets and Panthers. I am thoroughly enjoying having a FO with a vision, and that they actually work toward that vision.

Yes there will be mistakes but of course there will be.

I dont think anyone here believes the FO is perfect.

 

[Negan4Coach]

Why does everyone think he'd leave? Sad to see one of the one or two tougher players go.

 

[Chrispy]

Why does everyone think he'd leave? Sad to see one of the one or two tougher players go.

Where was he going to play next year? There are already 6 returning D and a minimum of 5 slot ahead of Edmundson. And there's Bean needing a spot next season in Raleigh.

There's no spot for Edmundson and no need to pay him a UFA contract. He wasn't coming back.

I'll be very surprised if TVR or Vatanen return either.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Why does everyone think he'd leave? Sad to see one of the one or two tougher players go.

Because a) the Canes will tight on cap space, b) it will be hard to move bad contracts (Gardiner, Dzingel) when other teams are cutting costs c) the Canes have Slavin, Skjei, Fleury and Bean at LHD even if they can move Gardiner and D) he’ll likely get paid more than Carolina can afford for the role he’d play.

I won’t be surprised to see Vatanen and TVR go to UFA and leave as well. Maybe if these 3 guys strike out in UFA, the Canes can get one of them at a cheap price, but I suspect there are other teams that need defensemen and will offer more.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Because a) the Canes will tight on cap space, b) it will be hard to move bad contracts (Gardiner, Dzingel) when other teams are cutting costs c) the Canes have Slavin, Skjei, Fleury and Bean at LHD even if they can move Gardiner and D) he’ll likely get paid more than Carolina can afford for the role he’d play.

I won’t be surprised to see Vatanen and TVR go to UFA and leave as well. Maybe if these 3 guys strike out in UFA, the Canes can get one of them at a cheap price, but I suspect there are other teams that need defensemen and will offer more.

Well, one of those bad contracts will vanish right when Svech gets paid. That's why it's good that Dzingel's deal is only 2 years. Also, Fleury plays his off-hand quite well, so I'm sure that the FO will just stand pat with the top-6. Finally, I like our FO a lot. They're not gods, however, for the most part, they make sound decisions with a couple of exceptions, which usually happens because they sometimes sign players before they know what Brindy likes and doesn't like. Over time, I'm sure that they will adapt. I was just saying that getting something for nothing (UFA rights) is pretty sweet.