Player Discussion Joel Armia

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

What do we do with Armia? He's barely a third line winger...

I mean are we getting rid of McCarron or Shaw?

Froese could go back to AHL/waived
McCarron maybe traded or sent AHL
Shaw who knows maybe he will go LITR
but still , we have like 8 players for bottom 6 right now , without those 3 i named

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Well, you should factor in that 29 pts came last year and he is age 25. He is just touching his prime years. Are we saying he is a legit top 6 forward? No. But he addresses a need on RW, has great size and decent skill. At age 25, he will get more opportunities on our lineup and it’s up to him to take this potential increase in ice time and run with it.

His potential wont increase if nobody is traded in the bottom 6 of the habs , because right now Byron Danault Lekhonen Hudon , Scherbak should be over him easily. Armia is a 4th liner right now.

 

[Hostile Offer]

Any guesses on his next contract? He would still be RFA next year, is eligible for arbitration but he hasn't proven much so I don't think Armia has much leverage. Maybe a one year deal at around $2M?

 

[NobleSix]

Ahh maybe if the philosophy in Montreal changes drastically, but usually player's scoring stats go down in Montreal.

Normally I would agree with you. If we were to acquire a top 6 forward, I would wager that his production would go down. Here though, we have a history of giving bottom 6ers prime opportunities and seeing them thrive because of that. Byron, Weise, and Danault are good examples of that.

I have a good feeling about Armia. I watched a lot of Jets games after the Christmas break last season, definetly more than Habs games. Armia is good. Maybe not a top 6 forward, but I'd say a 3rd line/2nd line tweener for sure.

 

[Belial]

Watch this guy get a chance with some skilled players and put up career numbers next year!

 

[vokiel]

Well, you should factor in that 29 pts came last year and he is age 25. He is just touching his prime years. Are we saying he is a legit top 6 forward? No. But he addresses a need on RW, has great size and decent skill. At age 25, he will get more opportunities on our lineup and it’s up to him to take this potential increase in ice time and run with it.

That's the disagreement I have. I don't see a need on the Right Wing going with Gallagher, Shaw, Scherbak and Lehkonen, McCarron and Byron being able to fill in the role. We kinda already have an over-abundance of wingers. So I don't know, if there are more changes to come like trading Scherbak or Lehkonen, I'll see Armia making a little more sense in this line up.

 

[vokiel]

Watch this guy get a chance with some skilled players and put up career numbers next year!

He had this chance already Belial, Winnipeg had a great team last year and the years before as well. Much better team than here if you ask me.

 

[Belial]

He had this chance already Belial, Winnipeg had a great team last year and the years before as well. Much better team than here if you ask me.

And who did he play with? Andrew Copp? Matt Hendricks?

 

[Zorba]

Watch this guy get a chance with some skilled players and put up career numbers next year!

Lol
I guess it will be on an another team. We don’t have skill especially at the C position.
You’d be excited if the Habs brought back Dagenais

 

[vokiel]

And who did he play with? Andrew Copp? Matt Hendricks?

If he wasn't put with better skilled players there, why would he be put with better skilled player here.

Edit: I type like a donkey...

 

[Le Barron de HF]

If he wasn't put with better skilled players there, why would he be put with better skilled player here.

Edit: I type like a donkey...

Because he was competing with Wheeler and Laine in WPG, while we have Gallagher, Scherbak and Shaw as his main competition.

 

[Goldmember]

Armia is a really really good player. I am surprised they let him go. I actually think that with top6 minutes he has potential for 30 goals. I bet he will score over 20 goals atleast.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

So where are Lehkonen, Hudon, and Scherbak going to play if that's our 3rd line?

Once Pacs is traded likely 1st,2nd and 3rd line LW.

 

[The Great Weal]

He had this chance already Belial, Winnipeg had a great team last year and the years before as well. Much better team than here if you ask me.

He didn't play with the Jets top guns

 

[Fazkovsky]

better than andrew shaw...

actually what we should play instead of Shaw

 

[A55P2]

To those saying he's a fourth line winger, what the hell are you talking about?

 

[vokiel]

He didn't play with the Jets top guns

And why would that be??? If he has sooo much great potential he would have already, the guy was drafted in 2011 just before Beaulieu, not in the last 2 years.

 

[absolute garbage]

Armia is a good player. His floor is 3rd line, but I think with more opportunity in a worse team he could blossom and become a solid 2nd line 50 point forward who plays an active power game. Middle 6 level is a reasonable expectation. At times he even looks like a first liner, but those are just blips as he doesn't quite have the finish/touch, hockey sense and offensive vision to make those plays/get into those areas consistently. Someone said he's like a winger version of Eller, and that isn't a bad comparison.

Like has been said already, he's a great forechecker. Hard worker, good skater, strong in cycle, in battles and on the PK. Good size, active stick, good reach with and without the puck. Has soft hands and can really dangle.

It doesn't solve the problems in terms of center ice or goalscoring, but it's a good and useful piece. Especially for a forward group that is so small in stature, it's a good addition.

 

[The Great Weal]

And why would that be??? If he has sooo much great potential he would have already, the guy was drafted in 2011 just before Beaulieu, not in the last 2 years.

Nobody said he did. We took on some cap(which we wouldn't even use) to get assets. That is a good trade.

 

[vokiel]

Nobody said he did. We took on some cap(which we wouldn't even use) to get assets. That is a good trade.

It's a bargain bin trade.

Same usual stuff.

 

[1909]

Once Pacs is traded likely 1st,2nd and 3rd line LW.

Domi and Drouin should also play LW

 

[The Great Weal]

It's a bargain bin trade.

Same usual stuff.

This is creative unlike the vast majority of Bergevins trades.

 

[The Great Weal]

Armia is a really really good player. I am surprised they let him go. I actually think that with top6 minutes he has potential for 30 goals. I bet he will score over 20 goals atleast.

LOL. Come on, I like him too but no way.

 

[1909]

Now, let's bring back Jiri Sekac !!!!

 

[montreal]

He's never put up more than 29 points in his career. I'm not sure where your optimism comes from.

He's played 1 full season in the NHL. The season before that he missed 25 games to injury. Before that he split time between the NHL and AHL. So we don't really know what we have. Last year he put up 29 pts, the previous season he was on pace for 27 pts. He just turned 25 less then 30 days ago, so we have someone that's been improving but on a good team didn't get much TOI, now with a bad team he's either going to show more or he's not. We gave up nothing for some money, a mid and a late pick and got a young winger that could be on the uptick and a player that might help with the transition for our 3rd overall pick in a year or two.