Player Discussion Joel Armia

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  1. Belial

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    This!

    People see a couple of players putting up points and think it's the norm...

    You don't even have 30 RW that put up 50 points last season!
     
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    Two points:

    1) I expect point totals to be higher this year than last.

    2) We don't have a big first line or even top six. If we're going to be good, we're going to have to have higher production than the league average. I consider guys like Byron, Danault, Lehkonen, and Hudon all capable of 40 to 50 points. Byron has proved it in the past, Danault is on pace for 48 points, and Lehkonen and Hudon can get there imo.
     
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    Exactly what i was gonna say

    He is a bit like Andrei Kostitsyn. A bit too inconsistent for a top 6 but capable of 30-40 points

    He is big enough to outmuscle players which is a rare comodity with all our small players
     
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    You want a third liner capable of 50 points?!? What do you expect from second and first liners?
     
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    It was a solid addition, and we got a 4th round pick on top of that just for taking on Mason which we flushed
    I see Armia staying for a while, I think he gets extended
     
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    Pretty much the same, but on the higher end. We're not a team with a big first line, or even a big top 6. We'll need to have 3 lines that come at you. imo, Gallagher, Domi, Drouin, and Tatar are capable of 45-60 points, in the new NHL.

    imo, Kotkaniemi, Byron, Danault, Lehkonen, and Hudon are all capable of 40 to 50 points.

    And I said 40-50, not 50 by the way.
     
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    need to remember and know the thing. even if you are playing a 0 + 0 season, the player may be very valuable to the team.
    Such an ineffective player is a gold medal for the coach.
    Always trust the ground in the worst place.
     
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    With this part i agree.
    But imo Armia is doing what needs to be done in 3rd line right now.
    Also as someone who has watched him closely for many years, i know his skillset is too good for the 4th line.

    I haven't seen one good game (By his standard) yet as a hab, but still he contributes at good 3rd line level.

    No need to bury him on the 4th at this point of the season.
     
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    3 goals, 3 assists!
     
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    First time I've heard 8 points in 12 games is a solid 3rd liner. ;)
     
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    Lehky has 1 goal only though. He is racking up pts because to whoever he passes he finishes. He is obviously creating turnovers but he has been a bit lucky to be honest. To me lehkonen isnt a bonafide top 6
     
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    Or.... He's been a bit unlucky because he's a goal scorer and the pucks aren't going on?
     
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    Lol what Armia doesnt have an ounce of the offensive potential AK had
     
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    I wasnt talking in terms or skillset but more production. Early on Ak46 was productive with pleky and kovalev but it went downhill from there as he was often demoted to thirs line duties with eller but was still able to pot 20 goals

    I do agree that Armia is more of a pure 3rd liner
     
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    Brings size to the line up. Can PK (aside from the Dallas game). Has a bit of offense but is not a 1st or 2nd liner. And maybe most important he is from the same hometown as KK and was KK's idol when he was 10 years old.

    Too much complaining around this guy. Don't expect 50 points from him, but I bet when the season is over he will quietly have 15 or so goals and close to 40 points.
     
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    Yea i like Armia for what he brings. Sure he's not a speedster but he has great hands, poise, size and defensive play. You can see his offensive talent because he can make plays on his own, a lot of his production this year comes from dead plays. There's value in a player who can turn a nothing play into something.

    Obviously he's not a perfect player but he's the type of guy you want on your 3rd line, he can also move up your lineup if theres injuries etc. At like 3M to 3.5M Armia is a great middle 6'er.
     
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    Love armia. Hes a strong body hard to take the puck from, excellent at protecting the puck, armia is strong as a bull and have good pair of hand. Hes reliable defensively but I would like to see him shot more. He must have a good wrister but he just don't want to shoot also hes puck decision are not always the best but hes a player that I trust & I would love to have him long term with the team on our 3rd line. He remind me a lot of Montreal eller. Let's just hope armia start having an impact on the team like Washington Eller.
     
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    His defensive game is awsome ! I really like how he create turnovers by grabbing the puck to the D-man ! He as really good hands to ! Solide bottom player !
     
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    Glad to see Armia putting up points for you guys. I miss him a lot, wish he was able to put it together here in Winnipeg, and sad he’s not in Helsinki with us this week.

    Hope he has a really good season with you guys along with your new kid. I’ll be tuning into a few Habs games for sure. :D
     
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    Top 6 its a problem

    3rd line and next to kotkaniemi ? its money.
     
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    I was curious to see who leads our team in differential between giveaways and takeaways. Armia has 7 giveaways and 13 takeaways (+6). Ranks 36 in the NHL. Next is Drouin with 6 giveaways and 10 takeaways (+4). He ranks 74th. Very surprised to see Drouin behind Armia

    Best in the league at this stage is Thorodore. 8 Giveaways and 21 takeaways (+13). When you consider that there is only 35 NHL defenseman with a + differential and he is leading all NHL players including forwards, it's impressive!
     
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    Entering his prime about now, Armia will be, for the next 4-5 years or so, a 40 pt player with Selke-like defense.

    People are complaining how he has little finish or offensive talent. If he had better offensive talent, he would basically be a superstar, the next Bobby Clarke. But he doesn't, so he's a 40 pt player who brings insanely good puck possession bonus to his team by winning like 85% of his puck battles in a game. There hasn't been a more efficient forecheck/puck battle player on the Habs in the last 20 years.
     
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    Hope Armia feeling better
     
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    Really missed Armia after he got injured, he may not be the greatest offensive threat but he does so many great things defensively. Hopefully he can play against Sabres
     
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