News Article: Joe Veleno

[obey86]

Yzerman said patience. I bet he's on the Griffins with two of Hirose, Rasmussen, Zadina, or Svechnikov. Could have some interesting line combos if we so keep a lot of prospects in the minors next year. Considering the log jam, there's only a couple spots up for contention barring some magic from Stevie.

Patience does not necessarily mean keeping your prospects in the minors. It's more not making big trades/signings or moving future pieces for win now pieces.

 

[obey86]

Am I the only one who has absolutely zero expectations for Svechnikov going forward? The kid just can't catch a break with health, and will need to start making some noise soon, before too many other prospects pass him up.

Yeah i've already written him off as a future piece. If he surprises, great! But i'm not expecting anything at this point.

 

[Tony Ferrari]

Hey guys, I’m the Red Wings writer at Puck77.com. I just put out a piece on Joe Veleno and would love some feedback from the community. The link is Detroit Red Wings’ Joseph Veleno takes First Step toward NHL Dream

Feel free to reply here or message me on Twitter. I’m @theTonyFerrari

 

[ricky0034]

Being better offensively than Glendening is like being a better speller than a 3 year old. Its a nice factoid, but it doesn't really mean anything.

but still pretty relevant when you're literally quoting a post arguing that he is better than Glendening is....

 

[Lil Bert]

Patience does not necessarily mean keeping your prospects in the minors. It's more not making big trades/signings or moving future pieces for win now pieces.

Patience 100% means keeping your players in the minors. Thats not a bad thing for most prospects. If Veleno is good enough (I think he will) then let him have a shot. I think it would do him well to play in minors instead of on a struggling NHL team. IMO

 

[obey86]

Patience 100% means keeping your players in the minors. Thats not a bad thing for most prospects. If Veleno is good enough (I think he will) then let him have a shot. I think it would do him well to play in minors instead of on a struggling NHL team. IMO

If he's good enough he'll be in the NHL, that's the point. They aren't going to keep in the AHL just for the sake of "patience."

 

[Christien]

 

[Gniwder]

Nice highlights, let's hope he fares better than the previous Wings that wore #90.

 

[ChadS]

Lots of Greg MacLeod (#23) in that video too, who signed with GR.

 

[Oddbob]

Patience 100% means keeping your players in the minors. Thats not a bad thing for most prospects. If Veleno is good enough (I think he will) then let him have a shot. I think it would do him well to play in minors instead of on a struggling NHL team. IMO

No it doesn't, mean that 100%. It may be keeping them in them minors it may not, but patience can and very likely is meaning, adding outside pieces slowly to the group, without panicking and giving up youth in trades to get a quick fix. Patience doesn't have to be just regarding whether a kid makes it quickly to the NHL or sits in the AHL for a few years.

 

[RRhoads]

When Yzerman said "patience", he meant it will take some time for us to get back on top. Had nothing to do with how long prospect will stay in minors. He only meant that it will take time to build a team that competes for the cup.

 

[Gniwder]

Hmm, I thought "patience" meant we get to watch Abby play on the first line until his contract runs out.

 

[Hen Kolland]

Taking Flight - From the 'Q' to the 'D'

For those who haven’t seen this in the past, Veleno has done a journal or blog of sorts detailing his season in Drummondville.

I like to hear that he’s coming to Detroit for training this summer. I can only imagine that will entail some inevitable training time with Larkin and keeps him close enough to the organization, including Yzerman, to challenge him in his development. He had a damn good camp last year, and I’d bet if he recreates that camp this year, he will find himself in Detroit.

 

[haulinbass]

Can't seem to find a shift-by-shift of him from this past season. Anyone got anything?

 

[FireBird71]

Taking Flight - From the 'Q' to the 'D'

For those who haven’t seen this in the past, Veleno has done a journal or blog of sorts detailing his season in Drummondville.

I like to hear that he’s coming to Detroit for training this summer. I can only imagine that will entail some inevitable training time with Larkin and keeps him close enough to the organization, including Yzerman, to challenge him in his development. He had a damn good camp last year, and I’d bet if he recreates that camp this year, he will find himself in Detroit.

I think all their top prospects should spend the summer in Detroit...Europeans too

 

[Snuggs]

Idk, I've got this feeling where I wouldn't mind watching Valeneo, Cholowski, Rasmussen, Zadina, Kuffner, McIsaac, 6th OA, Oliwer Kaski, Larsson all in Grand Rapids next year playing professional hockey and developing on top lines/minutes in the AHL vs comig here and playing 3rd lind minutes, possibly 2nd line and not getting PP/PK minutes. Extends the rebuild out a bit, but realistically it doesn't/shouldn't hurt things in the long run. Any move you wanna make this summer is still attainable. And... With all those guys down, developing, Red Wings can just play-out some contracts and unload some people near the deadline(IDK WHO really outside of Helm possibly).

Play out some veteran contracts, develop youth, get (likely) a top 10 draft pick in 2020, hopefully trade some veterans for solid picks to round out the draft/rebuild/future. This would be the AHL/Griffin squad I would toss out next season. Send some others to the ECHL if they can't crack the Griffins line-up. (Hicketts/Regula/other forwards/new draftee's that aren't remaining in JR's/Europe. )

AHL:
Matt Puempel – Joe Valeneo – Martin Frk
Michael Rasmussen – 6th OA Dylan Cozens 6th OA– Filip Zadina
Ryan Kuffner – (A)Carter Camper – Chris Terry
Wade Megan – Dominic Turgeon – (C)Matthew Ford

Givani Smith

Oliwer Kaski – Dennis Cholowski
Vili Saarijarvi – (A)Brain Lashoff
Dylan McIlrath – Jared McIsaac

Jake Chelios

Filip Larsson
Harri Sateri

 

[SCD]

Idk, I've got this feeling where I wouldn't mind watching Valeneo, Cholowski, Rasmussen, Zadina, Kuffner, McIsaac, 6th OA, Oliwer Kaski, Larsson all in Grand Rapids next year playing professional hockey and developing on top lines/minutes in the AHL vs comig here and playing 3rd lind minutes, possibly 2nd line and not getting PP/PK minutes. Extends the rebuild out a bit, but realistically it doesn't/shouldn't hurt things in the long run. Any move you wanna make this summer is still attainable. And... With all those guys down, developing, Red Wings can just play-out some contracts and unload some people near the deadline(IDK WHO really outside of Helm possibly).

Play out some veteran contracts, develop youth, get (likely) a top 10 draft pick in 2020, hopefully trade some veterans for solid picks to round out the draft/rebuild/future. This would some the AHL/Griffin squad I would toss out next season.

AHL:
Matt Puempel – Joe Valeneo – Martin Frk
Michael Rasmussen – 6th OA Dylan Cozens 6th OA– Filip Zadina
Ryan Kuffner – (A)Carter Camper – Chris Terry
Wade Megan – Dominic Turgeon – (C)Matthew Ford

Givani Smith

Oliwer Kaski – Dennis Cholowski
Vili Saarijarvi – (A)Brain Lashoff
Dylan McIlrath – Jared McIsaac

Jake Chelios

Filip Larsson
Harri Sateri

Cozens and McIssac can not play in the AHL next year.

It is a long commute from China for Chelios to play in GR.

 

[Snuggs]

Cozens and McIssac can not play in the AHL next year.

It is a long commute from China for Chelios to play in GR.

To be honest I didn't know Chelios went to play somewhere else, good for him, but why can't Cozens or McIssac play in the AHL next year? Literally dont' know why, I'm not trying to act like a jerk.

But whatever replace Chelious with Hicketts or some other defensive prospect you like(Lindstrom/Regula). It's prolly good for Chelios personally to move on and play in a better/different league.

 

[Hockey Know it all]

To be honest I didn't know Chelios went to play somewhere else, good for him, but why can't Cozens or McIssac play in the AHL next year? Literally dont' know why, I'm not trying to act like a jerk.

But whatever replace Chelious with Hicketts or some other defensive prospect you like(Lindstrom/Regula). It's prolly good for Chelios personally to move on and play in a better/different league.

Because both cozens and McIssac haven’t played either 4 seasons of CHL hockey or haven’t aged out of junior hockey.

 

[Zetterbeer]

To be honest I didn't know Chelios went to play somewhere else, good for him, but why can't Cozens or McIssac play in the AHL next year? Literally dont' know why, I'm not trying to act like a jerk.

But whatever replace Chelious with Hicketts or some other defensive prospect you like(Lindstrom/Regula). It's prolly good for Chelios personally to move on and play in a better/different league.

I believe Hicketts will also be up with the big club, as he will require waivers to be sent back to GR.

 

[FireBird71]

To be honest I didn't know Chelios went to play somewhere else, good for him, but why can't Cozens or McIssac play in the AHL next year? Literally dont' know why, I'm not trying to act like a jerk.

But whatever replace Chelious with Hicketts or some other defensive prospect you like(Lindstrom/Regula). It's prolly good for Chelios personally to move on and play in a better/different league.

Regula will be in London for another season

 

[FireBird71]

Idk, I've got this feeling where I wouldn't mind watching Valeneo, Cholowski, Rasmussen, Zadina, Kuffner, McIsaac, 6th OA, Oliwer Kaski, Larsson all in Grand Rapids next year playing professional hockey and developing on top lines/minutes in the AHL vs comig here and playing 3rd lind minutes, possibly 2nd line and not getting PP/PK minutes. Extends the rebuild out a bit, but realistically it doesn't/shouldn't hurt things in the long run. Any move you wanna make this summer is still attainable. And... With all those guys down, developing, Red Wings can just play-out some contracts and unload some people near the deadline(IDK WHO really outside of Helm possibly).

Play out some veteran contracts, develop youth, get (likely) a top 10 draft pick in 2020, hopefully trade some veterans for solid picks to round out the draft/rebuild/future. This would be the AHL/Griffin squad I would toss out next season. Send some others to the ECHL if they can't crack the Griffins line-up. (Hicketts/Regula/other forwards/new draftee's that aren't remaining in JR's/Europe. )

AHL:
Matt Puempel – Joe Valeneo – Martin Frk
Michael Rasmussen – 6th OA Dylan Cozens 6th OA– Filip Zadina
Ryan Kuffner – (A)Carter Camper – Chris Terry
Wade Megan – Dominic Turgeon – (C)Matthew Ford

Givani Smith

Oliwer Kaski – Dennis Cholowski
Vili Saarijarvi – (A)Brain Lashoff
Dylan McIlrath – Jared McIsaac

Jake Chelios

Filip Larsson
Harri Sateri

Sateri is in the KHL

 

[Snuggs]

I believe Hicketts will also be up with the big club, as he will require waivers to be sent back to GR.

I thought about it too, but is there really room? Mike Green/Trevor Daley/Jonathan Ericsson/Danny DeKeyser/Filip Hronek/Madison Bowey.
That's all without resigning Kronwall, or signing/trading for anyone else, and assuming Cholowski/Kaski don't push for a place in the line-up.

I feel like a lot of things have to go right for Hicketts to be a Red Wing come October. An I guess the lineup might look more realistic like this. Either way the point of the post/line up was to give younger guys bigger roles in the AHL vs coming to the NHL and developing maybe at a slower rate with less ice time and lower roles on the team.

AHL:
Matt Puempel – (A)Carter Camper – Martin Frk
Michael Rasmussen – Joe Valeneo – Filip Zadina
Ryan Kuffner – Wade Megan – Chris Terry
Givani Smith– Dominic Turgeon – (C)Matthew Ford

Oliwer Kaski – Dennis Cholowski
Vili Saarijarvi – (A)Brain Lashoff
Gustav Lindstrom – Joe Hicketts

Dylan McIlrath

Filip Larsson
Patrik Rybar

 

[Marky9er]

Regula will be in London for another season

In the OHL anyways....I could see London potentially trading him for younger pieces depending which year they want to contend. Either way he's going to be on a good team this year.

 

[TheMule93]

Hicketts will be waived before we give him a spot in the big club. He's not very good.