Joe Sakic - Redeemed as an NHL GM?

[Kamiccolo]

Last year we had this thread

https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/is-bergevin-the-worst-gm-in-the-nhl.2360027/

Sakic was named along guys like Chia and Bergervin. Even if he wasn't the worst, there is no doubt that for a while he was considered to be one of the worst.

Now over a year on, he completed one of the best trades ever trading a guy who wanted out in Duchene for a kings ransom. He has manged the cap well and put together a young, fast skilled team with a strong prospect pool.

Has he redeemed himself as a GM? Where does he rank now?

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[The Macho King]

Last year we had this thread

https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/is-bergevin-the-worst-gm-in-the-nhl.2360027/

Sakic was named along guys like Chia and Bergervin. Even if he wasn't the worst, there is no doubt that for a while he was considered to be one of the worst.

Now over a year on, he completed one of the best trades ever trading a guy who wanted out in Duchene for a kings ransom. He has manged the cap well and put together a young, fast skilled team with a strong prospect pool.

Has he redeemed himself as a GM? Where does he rank now?

Slow down. Ottawa's 1st is looking like a prime asset, but there was no way to know it was going to be *that* good at the time. Still, the trade has definitely worked out.

As to whether he redeemed himself? Too early to tell. He's bought himself more runway.

 

[Tralfamadore]

People were just really overreacting then and are now eating a lot of crow for it.

Tbh generally holding on to a player like Sakic did is probably not ideal but it sure did work out for the Avs in this case. Sakic looks like a genius now but bending over a shit GM like Dorion will do that.

 

[Tralfamadore]

Slow down. Ottawa's 1st is looking like a prime asset, but there was no way to know it was going to be *that* good at the time. Still, the trade has definitely worked out.

As to whether he redeemed himself? Too early to tell. He's bought himself more runway.

Please. Even if the pick was in the 20s the trade was still incredible for the Avs.

 

[Avsboy]

The Duchene deal was a masterpiece. An engineered three-team trade with two young quality NHL players in Girard and Kamenev along with several picks. That alone redeems him.

 

[Rhaegar Targaryen]

I mean, the 1st pick was the only real thing of value in that trade. A basic quality for quantity trade that worked out better than he could have ever dreamed of.

I have him between 22-28 range.

 

[El Travo]

I mean, the 1st pick was the only real thing of value in that trade. A basic quality for quantity trade that worked out better than he could have ever dreamed of.

I have him between 22-28 range.

You could just say that you know jack shit about the trade.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

The return for Duchene was very good, but is being overrated due to Ottawa’s complete incompetence.

 

[tucker3434]

The Duchene situation was the reason everyone was calling him terrible. He should’ve never caught so much hell to begin with. He clearly had a better handle on the situation than the hf brain trust. There’s nothing to redeem. He just proved everyone wrong.

 

[slobbergob]

I mean, the 1st pick was the only real thing of value in that trade. A basic quality for quantity trade that worked out better than he could have ever dreamed of.

I have him between 22-28 range.

It's early but it seems likely Girard plays on the first pairing this year so yeah, that's not true at all.

 

[Dump Itch]

A bad GM can always pull off an OK trade (Duchene) once in a blue moon.

 

[Hasbro]

I mean, the 1st pick was the only real thing of value in that trade. A basic quality for quantity trade that worked out better than he could have ever dreamed of.

I have him between 22-28 range.

 

[Hasbro]

The return for Duchene was very good, but is being overrated due to Ottawa’s complete incompetence.

It's being improved by Ottawa's incompetence.

 

[connormcmuffin]

Drafted well, the ROR stuffs was a gong show but Duchene trade was perfect. He's above average as a GM.

 

[Echo Roku]

A bad GM can always pull off an OK trade (Duchene) once in a blue moon.

What makes him bad then?

 

[RockyMtnRedhawk]

It's not just the Duchene trade. ROR trade worked out really well for the Avs, and a lot of people liked his use of cap room to get Grubauer. Avs have also drafted well in the past 4 years.

The Avs are also one of only a few teams that can say they have zero bad contracts right now.

 

[Belieber]

Avs are looking great and that Ottawa first can set them up as a contender for a decade.

Love what Sakic is doing, glad their jerseys are great again.

 

[DRW204]

A bad GM can always pull off an OK trade (Duchene) once in a blue moon.

an ok trade? he got a bundle of picks including, an unprotected 1st, 2 legit prospects (which included one being 5 months removed from a 1st round selection in Bowers) and a Dman who stepped into their roster right away and should be in a top 4 role this year in Girard.

This was for a player that everyone & their grandmom knew was on the market, and had been for a while. Not to mention the team improved dramatically compared to the year prior w/o him

Lol @ ok.

 

[NeverForget06]

Safe to say that you should never judge a GM based upon a short resume, or a trade based upon how it looks immediately afterwards.

 

[Lonewolfe2015]

Sakic got a lot of flak for things Roy did. Roy was his decision and he gave him too much runway, but still unfair to blame him entirely.

 

[22FUTON9]

The Duchene trade, RoR trade, signing Mackinnon to 6.3 per year alone gets him out of the bottom 10. Easily

 

[avsfan09]

I mean, the 1st pick was the only real thing of value in that trade. A basic quality for quantity trade that worked out better than he could have ever dreamed of.

I have him between 22-28 range.

As of now Girard is much more valuable than the Ottawa first. Would trade the first over Girard.

 

[Volica]

Funny how easy fans can forget a good/bad GM.
Sakic was subpar. Bottom 10 GM.
Sakic makes a killer trade. Top 10 GM.

 

[Satoru Gojo]

Hey if any GM wants to be redeemed all they have to do is give Pierre Dorion a call

 

[Brownies]

As of now Girard is much more valuable than the Ottawa first. Would trade the first over Girard.

Let’s just say I’d be more than happy to have Girard with my Habs... When I saw his name in the trade I thought Sakic had made a really really good trade.