Jim Benning Era Transaction Summary

[krutovsdonut]

ok these are free agents, legacies, waiver claims etcetera, i am sure there are mistakes here.

list eligibility = 1 nhl game

players/prospects benning inherited still with the team

sedin
sedin
edler
labate
gaunce
hutton


benning waiver claims or free agent signings still with the team

biega
boucher
bachman
chaput
megna
eriksson
mceneny
molino
stecher
burmistrov
gagner
vanek
del zotto
nillson


players benning inherited and then were let go (waived, bought out or allowed to become free agents)

de fazio
corrado
hamhuis
higgins
kennins
stanton
sestito
weber
frieson
grenier
larsen
rodin


players benning drafted, traded for, claimed on waivers or signed, who were then let go (waived or bought out or allowed to become free agents)

cracknell
etem
fedun
matthias
richardson
vrbata
miller
mcmillan
vey
bartkowski
prust
tryamkin
zalewski
cramarossa
rendulic
shore
skille

 

[DL44]

They finished off as a 28th place team that were buyers at the trade deadline that year.

I dont remember... what was the speculation surrounding the trade list that Vrbata submitted?

 

[y2kcanucks]

I dont remember... what was the speculation surrounding the trade list that Vrbata submitted?

Provided them with a trade list full of non-playoff teams.

Regarding Hamhuis, we could have had Dano and a 1st round pick from Chicago but Benning began the process too late and Chicago moved on to other options.

It’s funny, people say Benning was hamstrung by Gillis’s NTC’s, yet it was a player Benning gave an NTC to that was the only player with an NTC to block a trade out of here.

 

[me2]

Provided them with a trade list full of non-playoff teams.

Regarding Hamhuis, we could have had Dano and a 1st round pick from Chicago but Benning began the process too late and Chicago moved on to other options.

It’s funny, people say Benning was hamstrung by Gillis’s NTC’s, yet it was a player Benning gave an NTC to that was the only player with an NTC to block a trade out of here.

 

[DL44]

Provided them with a trade list full of non-playoff teams.

Regarding Hamhuis, we could have had Dano and a 1st round pick from Chicago but Benning began the process too late and Chicago moved on to other options.

It’s funny, people say Benning was hamstrung by Gillis’s NTC’s, yet it was a player Benning gave an NTC to that was the only player with an NTC to block a trade out of here.

Umm... who says Benning was hamstrung by anyone other than Kesler?

Why is this the first ive heard of the Dano/1st deal?
And altho the 1st sounds good, Dano woulda caused Benning all sorts of PR issues.... probably beyond Sbisa.. heh heh..
He's that slow.
Think he learned from acquiring Bonino.

 

[y2kcanucks]

Umm... who says Benning was hamstrung by anyone other than Kesler?

Why is this the first ive heard of the Dano/1st deal?
And altho the 1st sounds good, Dano woulda caused Benning all sorts of PR issues.... probably beyond Sbisa.. heh heh..
He's that slow.
Think he learned from acquiring Bonino.

Probably because a lot of people who think Benning has done a good job tend to ignore all his blunders.

First, here's a source that states Benning turned down the 9th overall pick in 2015 for Ryan Miller: 6 Ways The Canucks Have Whiffed On Their Attempt To Rebuild On-The-Fly

Here's Benning turning down the 1st and Dano for Hamhuis:

 

[vancityluongo]

Here's Benning turning down the 1st and Dano for Hamhuis:

*This* I remember. Lmao. Good god. Like it would be one thing if he overshot and then lost out on one of those pieces or had to take a downgrade as the parties realized the time crunch.

 

[DL44]

blah blah blah

so no one is claiming Benning was hamstung by NTC's outside of Kesler... got it.

 

[VanJack]

Probably because a lot of people who think Benning has done a good job tend to ignore all his blunders.

First, here's a source that states Benning turned down the 9th overall pick in 2015 for Ryan Miller: 6 Ways The Canucks Have Whiffed On Their Attempt To Rebuild On-The-Fly

Here's Benning turning down the 1st and Dano for Hamhuis:

Sorry, but I'm not buying the rumor that first rounders were ever on the table to either Hamhuis or Miller.... over-30 veterans on expiring contacts just don't command that kind of return. I suspect the best Jimbo could have done would have been 3rd- 5th rounders for either one of them.

 

[y2kcanucks]

blah blah blah deflect deflect deflect

Typical, ignore everything that was said.

 

[y2kcanucks]

Sorry, but I'm not buying the rumor that first rounders were ever on the table to either Hamhuis or Miller.... over-30 veterans on expiring contacts just don't command that kind of return. I suspect the best Jimbo could have done would have been 3rd- 5th rounders for either one of them.

That’s fine. Whether you choose to believe it or not it happened.

 

[racerjoe]

Sorry, but I'm not buying the rumor that first rounders were ever on the table to either Hamhuis or Miller.... over-30 veterans on expiring contacts just don't command that kind of return. I suspect the best Jimbo could have done would have been 3rd- 5th rounders for either one of them.

The Hamhuis trade with Chicago was pretty well talked about in the media, that we pretty much could have had the same package that I think it was Ladd got. The Dallas stuff is also pretty well out there.

I find it hard not to believe there is a lot of smoke around this Miller to SJ story. I am skeptical that it was straight up or the 9th and not the next years pick, but I think we have to go that a 1st was on the table.

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

There was also a hot rumor going around at the time that Jimmy had a deal for Hamhuis but Mr Aquilini wanted more and refused to sign off on it. That the deal was 'Aquified' so to speak. I guess we'll never really know just what happened that day. Perhaps Mr Aquilini was on remote location and having cellular difficulties? Any thing is possible, but one thing is sure, Jimmy gets paid the big dollars to take the flak.

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

Jut reading through this, I didn't realize until now that Benning had traded fifteen draft picks. Fifteen picks!

God that is depressing.

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

ok these are free agents, legacies, waiver claims etcetera, i am sure there are mistakes here.

list eligibility = 1 nhl game

players/prospects benning inherited still with the team

sedin
sedin
edler
labate
gaunce
hutton


benning waiver claims or free agent signings still with the team

biega
boucher
bachman
chaput
megna
eriksson
mceneny
molino
stecher
burmistrov
gagner
vanek
del zotto
nillson


players benning inherited and then were let go (waived, bought out or allowed to become free agents)

de fazio
corrado
hamhuis
higgins
kennins
stanton
sestito
weber
frieson
grenier
larsen
rodin


players benning drafted, traded for, claimed on waivers or signed, who were then let go (waived or bought out or allowed to become free agents)

cracknell
etem
fedun
matthias
richardson
vrbata
miller
mcmillan
vey
bartkowski
prust
tryamkin
zalewski
cramarossa
rendulic
shore
skille

McEneny was actually a Gillis signing as an 18 year old undrafted invitee at 2012 rookie camp. He had missed nearly all of his draft year with a serious injury. ashton Sautner would fit the description of a Benning signing who was still in the system.

 

[me2]

so no one is claiming Benning was hamstung by NTC's outside of Kesler... got it.

Even on Kesler trade it was Benning that hamstrung himself.

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

A little more on the Hamhuis trade deadline fiasco.

 

[SgtToody]

ok these are free agents, legacies, waiver claims etcetera, i am sure there are mistakes here.

list eligibility = 1 nhl game

players/prospects benning inherited still with the team

sedin
sedin
edler
labate
gaunce
hutton


benning waiver claims or free agent signings still with the team

biega
boucher
bachman
chaput
megna
eriksson
mceneny
molino
stecher
burmistrov
gagner
vanek
del zotto
nillson


players benning inherited and then were let go (waived, bought out or allowed to become free agents)

de fazio
corrado
hamhuis
higgins
kennins
stanton
sestito
weber
frieson
grenier
larsen
rodin


players benning drafted, traded for, claimed on waivers or signed, who were then let go (waived or bought out or allowed to become free agents)

cracknell
etem
fedun
matthias
richardson
vrbata
miller
mcmillan
vey
bartkowski
prust
tryamkin
zalewski
cramarossa
rendulic
shore
skille

Sorry, but is Forsling a separate and different Benning screw-up category, or is there another page to your list I didn't scroll back to read...?

 

[Hit the post]

so no one is claiming Benning was hamstung by NTC's outside of Kesler... got it.

So no one is claiming Benning has a habit of handing out NTCs himself...got it.

 

[krutovsdonut]

A little more on the Hamhuis trade deadline fiasco.

this is interesting. so botchford understood the owner wanted a premium for hamhuis. huh.

 

[tyhee]

so no one is claiming Benning was hamstrung by NTC's outside of Kesler... got it.

On this page is discussed the claim that Vrbata gave a list at the trade deadline that was exclusively non-playoff teams. Since non-playoff teams would have no use for a rental and that limited ntc was given out by Benning, the reference to the Benning being hamstrung by his own ntc seems to obviously be a reference to Vrbata.

The posts making the claim you say isn't being made are clear enough to anyone who is reading the posts and who has followed the Canucks enough to know who was the gm at the time Vrbata was signed.

 

[me2]

On this page is discussed the claim that Bonino gave a list at the trade deadline that was exclusively non-playoff teams. Since non-playoff teams would have no use for a rental and that limited ntc was given out by Benning, the reference to the Benning being hamstrung by his own ntc seems to obviously be a reference to Bonino.

The posts making the claim you say isn't being made are clear enough to anyone who is reading the posts and who has followed the Canucks enough to know who was the gm at the time Bonino was signed.

You obviously mean Vrbata.

 

[tyhee]

You obviously mean Vrbata.

Edited, thanks.

 

[0din]

Burmistrov for a roster spot

 

[JuniorNelson]

Benning is about to make the moves that define him, if you accept that ownership had an agenda to run out the Sedins' contract.