Jim Benning Era Transaction Summary

[Bad Goalie]

Just look at the Utica stats, Green is a trap coach, shot for, shots against, goals for, goals against, who was scoring and individual stats and of course the standings. For a wide open system that team sure didn't get many shots per game and allowed more.
I hate when other do or post this but, what on earth is the evidence that he isn't using a trap system? Or a left side lock?

The Comets outshot their opponents in most games.

 

[VanJack]

Tomlinson on with Bro' Jake on TSN 1040 praising Burmistrov's two-way game as well as his work on the scone-unit pp....is it possible?.....one of Jimbo's reclamation projects who actually works out?.....Burmistrov being described as "Markus Granlund lite"....would be encouraging if by some miracle lightening strikes twice.

 

[krutovsdonut]

i thought i would try my hand at a current benning balance sheet as a different way to summarize his trades only.

this is a list of what he has given up in trades and what he still has to show for it. i have not figured out a good way to account for those that came for a while and went so those are listed separately at the end if they played 10 games for us. i have listed the actual players taken in the position of the draft picks we gained or gave up beside the draft pick.

part 1- negative balance sheet

players benning inherited who were traded
kesler
garrison
hansen
burrows
bieksa
kassian
lack
jensen
mcnally
shinkaruk
mallet

players drafted by benning who were traded
forsling
mccann

draft picks benning surrendered in trade
asplund (33rd/2nd)
mckeown (50th/2nd) 2 nhl games
andersson (53rd/2nd) 2 nhl games
gustavsson (55th/2nd)
sideroff (84 oa/3rd)
iverson (85 oa/3rd)
ang (94th/4th)
wesley (96 oa/4th round)
soderland (112th/4th)
staum (124th/5th)
karow (126th/5th)
lakotos (157th/6th)
gennaro (203rd/7th)
sadek (204th/7th)
2018 4th

part 2 -- positive balance sheet

trade acquisitions still with the team
gudbranson
sutter
dorsett
dahlen
goldobin
granlund
baertschi
pouliot

draft picks acquired by benning trades still in system or rights owned
brisebois (66th/3rd)
gunnarson (135th/5th)
candella (140th/5th)
palmu (181/6th)
mckenzie (194th/7th)
olson (210/7th)

players acquired by benning by trade who played more than 10 nhl games for canucks before moving on
bonino 75 games
vey 116 games
sbisa 199 games
etem 39 games
larsen 26 games
pedan 13 games
clendenning 17 games
prust 35 games

 

[krutovsdonut]

feel free to point out errors or omissions and i will edit.

 

[vanarchy]

The last year has been an interesting one. I went from wanting him fired as soon as possible to honestly wanting to see how he does with the next TDL/summer. In a perfect world, someone else would handle to trades and signings and Jimbo would stay on in another capacity.

 

[Nuckles]

You forgot Lack in inherited players who were traded, and Clendening and Pedan in players acquired who moved on after 10+ NHL games.

There's already a sticky thread that lists all his trades: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/jim-benning-era-transaction-summary-ii.2225825/

 

[krutovsdonut]

i will add lack, pedan and clendenning

i find the other thread hard to take in so i tried it a different way.

 

[Shattered Dreams]

You forgot Lockwood. I know the pick was originally ours, but we got it back in the Sutter trade. Unless the trade and re-acquisition cancels it out.

 

[krutovsdonut]

i think lockwood cancels out. draft pick we traded and draft pick we acquired.

 

[Ainec]

still remember the trade deadline where nothing at all happened

lmfao.

 

[Nomobo]

still remember the trade deadline where nothing at all happened

lmfao.

When was that again?

 

[me2]

players acquired by benning by trade who played more than 10 nhl games for canucks before moving on


Is that a positive?

 

[Ainec]

When was that again?

Canucks strike out at NHL trade deadline

 

[Baby Pettersson]

This just makes me realize that even though he's made alot of trades almost everyone but Kesler he has dealt with has been pretty bleh. All 2nd / 3rd tier players. Nothing that really shakes things from the ground up.

Really whether you like him or hate him he hasn't really changed a whole lot from trading at the end of the day.

Drafting? Well that's a different story.

 

[y2kcanucks]

Canucks strike out at NHL trade deadline

They finished off as a 28th place team that were buyers at the trade deadline that year.

 

[ProstheticConscience]

We've already got this thread. It's right here: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/jim-benning-era-transaction-summary-ii.2225825/

 

[RandV]

Technically Dane Fox falls in the first category, what a tragedy!

Right now Dane Fox is outscoring former NHLer and 41 year old teammate Steven Reinprecht in the DEL... wonder why he never got a shot here.

 

[ProstheticConscience]

Technically Dane Fox falls in the first category, what a tragedy!

Right now Dane Fox is outscoring former NHLer and 41 year old teammate Steven Reinprecht in the DEL... wonder why he never got a shot here.

Couldn't skate for shit IIRC.

 

[WTG]

Had to do a double take, 6 top 90 picks traded away, 4 of them 2nd round picks.

That's terrible for a supposed rebuilding team. Also a huge mismanagement of Utica, because those 6 picks could have potentially really helped Utica.

 

[sting101]

Basically boils down to this

Kesler Bieksa Forsling 2nd(Asplund) 2nd(Gustavsson) 3rd(Sideroff) 3rd(Iverson) 4th(Ang) - Sutter Gudbranson Dorsett 3rd(Lockwood)
Hansen 4th(Soderland) - Goldobin 5th(Gunnarsson) 6th(Palmu)
Burrows - Dahlen
Lack - Brisebois
Shinkaruk - Granlund
2nd(Andersson) - Baertschi
Pedan 4th(2018) - Pouliot

Garrison - Nothing
Kassian 5th - nothing
Hamhuis - nothing


wesley (96 oa/4th round) - Dalpe (was gillis)

the 5th 6th and 7ths offset each other

 

[WTG]

feel free to point out errors or omissions and i will edit.

players acquired by benning by trade who played more than 10 nhl games for canucks before moving on
bonino 75 games
vey 116 games
sbisa 199 games
etem 39 games
larsen 26 games
pedan 13 games

You are missing Prust

 

[tantalum]

Really whether you like him or hate him he hasn't really changed a whole lot from trading at the end of the day.

Hmmm not having McCann and Forsling right now is a pretty significant impact to the health and depth of the organization. Add in the picks and the impact is pretty great.

I guess from the point of view that there was no depth when he took over there hasn't been any major change but really that's the whole problem now isn't it? There should be a change but there really isn't.

 

[krutovsdonut]

prust added. i did skip over some ahl only stuff. not sure that adds to the picture.

 

[krutovsdonut]

players acquired by benning by trade who played more than 10 nhl games for canucks before moving on

Is that a positive?

i think it's part of the picture to look at any interim returns. subjectively, i wouldn't attach much value to most of the players noted.

 

[me2]

i think it's part of the picture to look at any interim returns. subjectively, i wouldn't attach much value to most of the players noted.

need to a category for the existing players he failed to get a return on ie Hamhuis etc