Jets Top Prospects Poll: #4 Prospect

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Jets Top 20 Prospects:

1. Kristian Vesalainen - 66.9%
2. Sami Niku - 90.7%
3. Mason Appleton - 42.9%

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[Romang67]

Gustafsson should have gone 1st on account of being Swedish. Y'all're biased.

 

[Jimby]

It gets a little tougher after this one.

 

[puck stoppa]

TEAM

CONTRACT

PLAYER

DATE OF BIRTH

AGE

DRAFT YEAR

DRAFT POSITION

SHOOTS

ROLE

POSITION

HEIGHT

WEIGHT

NATIONALITY

JETS

RFA-2020

JACK ROSLOVIC

1997-01-29

21

2015

1-025

R

F

RW

6'1"

187

US

JR.

RFA-2021

MIKHAIL BERDIN

1998-03-01

20

2016

6-157

R

G

G

6' 2"

163

RU

MOOSE

RFA-2018

NIC KERDILES

1994-01-11

24

2012

2-036

L

F

LW

6' 2"

196

US

MOOSE

RFA-2018

ERIC COMRIE

1995-07-06

23

2013

2-059

L

G

G

6' 1"

175

CA

MOOSE

RFA-2019

BRENDAN LEMIEUX

1996-03-15

22

2014

2-031

L

F

LW

6' 1"

210

US

MOOSE

RFA-2019

NELSON NOGIER

1996-05-27

22

2014

4-101

R

D

RD

6' 2"

191

CA

MOOSE

RFA-2019

C.J. SUESS

1994-03-17

24

2014

5-129

L

F

LW

5' 11"

190

US

MOOSE

RFA-2020

JANSEN HARKINS

1997-05-23

21

2015

2-047

L

F

C

6' 1"

182

US

MOOSE

RFA-2020

MICHAEL SPACEK

1997-04-09

21

2015

3-078

R

F

RW

5' 11"

187

CZ

MOOSE

RFA-2020

MASON APPLETON

1996-01-15

22

2015

6-168

R

F

C

6' 2"

193

US

MOOSE

RFA-2020

SIMON BOURQUE

1997-01-12

21

2015

6-177

L

D

LD

6' 1"

198

CA

MOOSE

RFA-2020

SAMI NIKU

1996-10-10

21

2015

7-198

L

D

LD

6' 1"

176

FI

MOOSE

RFA-2021

LOGAN STANLEY

1998-05-26

20

2016

1-018

L

D

LD

6' 7"

228

CA

MOOSE

RFA-2021

LUKE GREEN

1998-01-12

20

2016

3-079

R

D

RD

6' 1"

188

CA

MOOSE

RFA-2021

SKYLER MCKENZIE

1998-01-20

20

2017

7-198

L

F

LW

5' 8"

154

CA

RL

UNSIGNED

JACK GLOVER

1996-05-17

22

2014

3-069

R

D

RD

6' 3"

198

US

RL

UNSIGNED

PAVEL KRASKOVSKY

1996-11-11

21

2014

6-164

L

F

C/LW

6' 4"

187

RU

RL

UNSIGNED

MATT USTASKI

1994-05-27

24

2014

7-192

L

F

C/LW

6' 6"

223

US

RL

UNSIGNED

JACOB CEDERHOLM

1998-01-30

20

2016

4-097

R

D

RD

6' 4"

187

SE

RL

UNSIGNED

KRISTIAN VESALAINEN

1999-06-01

19

2017

1-024

L

F

LW

6' 3"

207

FI

RL

UNSIGNED

DYLAN SAMBERG

1999-01-24

19

2017

2-043

L

D

LD

6' 3"

190

US

RL

UNSIGNED

JOHNNY KOVACEVIC

1997-07-12

21

2017

3-074

R

D

RD

6' 4"

208

CA

RL

UNSIGNED

SANTERI VIRTANEN

1999-05-11

19

2017

4-105

L

F

C

6' 2"

194

FI

RL

UNSIGNED

LEON GAWANKE

1999-05-31

19

2017

5-136

R

D

RD

6' 1"

186

DE

RL

UNSIGNED

ARVID HOLM

1998-11-03

19

2017

6-167

L

G

G

6' 4"

213

SE

RL

UNSIGNED

CROIX EVINGSON

1997-08-28

20

2017

7-211

L

D

LD

6' 5"

213

US

RL

UNSIGNED

DAVID GUSTAFSSON

2000-04-11

18

2018

2-060

L

F

C

6' 1"

196

SE

RL

UNSIGNED

NATHAN SMITH

1998-10-19

19

2018

3-091

R

F

C

5' 11"

177

US

RL

UNSIGNED

DECLAN CHISOLM

2000-01-12

18

2018

5-150

L

D

LD

6' 0"

185

CA

RL

UNSIGNED

GIOVANNI VALLATI

2000-02-21

18

2018

5-153

L

D

LD

6' 1"

184

CA

RL

UNSIGNED

JARED MOE

1999-07-22

18

2018

6-184

R

G

G

6' 3"

205

US

RL

UNSIGNED

AUSTIN WONG

2000-08-26

17

2018

7-215

R

F

C

5'10"

189

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[garret9]

For fun, here is using Manny's prospect tool, based *just* on last year's performance (no shooting percentage regression):

Vesalainen (ranked 8th)
Niku (39th)
Tucker Poolman (70th)
David Gustafsson (98th)
Brendan Lemieux (148th)
Mason Appleton (171st)
Dylan Samberg (173rd)
Logan Stanley (262nd)
Michael Spacek (273rd)
Nic Kerdiles (329th)
Johnathan Kovacevic (376th)
C.J. Suess (736th)
Croix Evingson (770th)
Skyler McKenzie (865th)
Giovanni Vallati (982nd)
Leon Gawanke (1125th)
JC Lipon (1385th)
Luke Green (1405th)
Declan Chisholm (1504th)
Jansen Harkins (3137th)
Nathan Smith (5020th)
Jacob Cederholm (5545th)
Santeri Virtanen (5652nd)
Simon Bourque (6232nd)
Jack Glover (8249th)
Nelson Nogier (8985th)
Pavel Kraskovsky (9244th)
Jan Kostalek (13940th)

EDITED TO ADD MISSING PLAYERS

Some fun extras:
Kale Clague (20th)
Timothy Liljegren (73rd)
Erik Foley (217th)
Chase De Leo (5960th)

 

[puck stoppa]

The list above is now accurate and I deleted the second one as garret posted it as well. Again thanks to @Arthur Fonzarelli for making that list and to @garret9 for adding those rankings.
Please remember to post who to add using the list above. Thanks.

 

[Holden Caulfield]

Why expand the options to 11?

Anyways this will be a runaway for Samberg.

Add Gawanke. He didn't have a great year, but there's not much left to add.

 

[puck stoppa]

Why expand the options to 11?

Anyways this will be a runaway for Samberg.

Add Gawanke. He didn't have a great year, but there's not much left to add.

Some suggested to add a few more after the first few rounds because I started with 8 guys. Should I just stick to 10? Also, last round there were only three posts to add, 2 for Skyler and 1 for CJ, so do I just take whoever gets most votes and keep it at 10? If so, I can take Suess out of this one.

 

[Holden Caulfield]

Some suggested to add a few more after the first few rounds because I started with 8 guys. Should I just stick to 10? Also, last round there were only three posts to add, 2 for Skyler and 1 for CJ, so do I just take whoever gets most votes and keep it at 10?

Generally I think that's best. It'll generate more interest in voting for who to be added, IMO. Pick a number and stick with it. When I ran it I had 10 or 12 per poll (can't remember) then had the voting to get in. Until it got to the point where I could just add in all the remaining prospects (last 15-20 remaining prospects). No point in taking anyone out of the voting though. Doesn't really matter, it's not anyone who is added now will be a real consideration for another 4-8 picks anyways.

 

[puck stoppa]

Generally I think that's best. It'll generate more interest in voting for who to be added, IMO. Pick a number and stick with it. When I ran it I had 10 or 12 per poll (can't remember) then had the voting to get in. Until it got to the point where I could just add in all the remaining prospects (last 15-20 remaining prospects). No point in taking anyone out of the voting though. Doesn't really matter, it's not anyone who is added now will be a real consideration for another 4-8 picks anyways.

Guess I'm stuck with 11 now lol. I'll just add one from now on then. One more question, do you shorten poll length if winner is obvious, should I make this one shorter for example?

 

[Gm0ney]

For fun, here is using Manny's prospect tool, based *just* on last year's performance (no shooting percentage regression):

Vesalainen (ranked 8th)
Niku (39th)
Tucker Poolman (70th)
David Gustafsson (98th)
Brendan Lemieux (148th)
Mason Appleton (171st)
Dylan Samberg (173rd)
Logan Stanley (262nd)
Michael Spacek (273rd)
Nic Kerdiles (329th)
Johnathan Kovacevic (376th)
C.J. Suess (736th)
Croix Evingson (770th)
Skyler McKenzie (865th)
Giovanni Vallati (982nd)
Leon Gawanke (1125th)
JC Lipon (1385th)
Luke Green (1405th)
Declan Chisholm (1504th)
Jansen Harkins (3137th)
Nathan Smith (5020th)
Jacob Cederholm (5545th)
Santeri Virtanen (5652nd)
Simon Bourque (6232nd)
Jack Glover (8249th)
Nelson Nogier (8985th)
Pavel Kraskovsky (9244th)
Jan Kostalek (13940th)

EDITED TO ADD MISSING PLAYERS

Some fun extras:
Kale Clague (20th)
Timothy Liljegren (73rd)
Erik Foley (217th)
Chase De Leo (5960th)

Well that De Leo for Kerdiles trade looks pretty good. Although I find it hard to believe there are 5,959 drafted prospects better than De Leo - or that the gap between him and Kerdiles is that wide.

 

[puck stoppa]

Well that De Leo for Kerdiles trade looks pretty good. Although I find it hard to believe there are 5,959 drafted prospects better than De Leo - or that the gap between him and Kerdiles is that wide.

Kerdiles is a good pickup as we don't have a ton of guys to recall, Appleton, Lemieux, KV (for no more than 10 most likely to not burn elc, unless he's ready to play all year with Jets). After that it's pretty thin so Kerdiles is nice tweener pickup who can come up with lots of injuries.

 

[Holden Caulfield]

Kerdiles is a good pickup as we don't have a ton of guys to recall, Appleton, Lemieux, KV (for no more than 10 most likely to not burn elc, unless he's ready to play all year with Jets). After that it's pretty thin so Kerdiles is nice tweener pickup who can come up with lots of injuries.

Griffith and Everberg I believe are the pickups to help with emergency recall help. Griffith has played 45 NHL gp over past two years split between Toronto and Buffalo. Everberg played 70 NHL gp last time he was in NA between 2014-2016. Both are decent depth options.

 

[puck stoppa]

Griffith and Everberg I believe are the pickups to help with emergency recall help. Griffith has played 45 NHL gp over past two years split between Toronto and Buffalo. Everberg played 70 NHL gp last time he was in NA between 2014-2016. Both are decent depth options.

Yes, forgot about them. I really like Griffith.

 

[StatisticsAddict99]

Appleton

 

[mcpw]

Repost:

2017-18 Dylan Samberg 5v5 NCAA
42GP
0-5-5
GF%Rel -6.6

Good that the people who watch him play see upside, but I'm not voting for him anywhere near our top5 until his results start looking better than Jack Glover's. Some people saw upside in him, too.​

Good WJC is nice, but the biggest part of any player's season is the 600+ minutes of 5v5 they play during their regular season. I'll be waiting for Samberg to do anything there. He hasn't moved the needle so far. Two primary points in 42 games, sounds like replacement level.

Went with the Swedish Lowry who scored six 5v5 goals in the SHL at 17.

 

[DoingItCoolKiwi]

Looks like an open and shut case. Might as well make the next one now

 

[KingBogo]

Looks like an open and shut case. Might as well make the next one now

I'd also vote if it is a landslide to close earlier and go to the next. Just as I'd argue if it is real tight to leave it open a little longer so more posters have an opportunity to vote.

 

[puck stoppa]

Looks like an open and shut case. Might as well make the next one now

I dunno the weird site rules, can I open next one before this one closes? Like first thing in morning for example? I don't wanna ruffle any feathers.
I can just post my own final list and we all go with that

 

[Romang67]

I dunno the weird site rules, can I open next one before this one closes? Like first thing in morning for example? I don't wanna ruffle any feathers.

The reason we generally keep all of them open the same length is to have something to do during July, tbh. Might also be some interesting discussion to be had (see @mcpw).

 

[puck stoppa]

The reason we generally keep all of them open the same length is to have something to do during July, tbh. Might also be some interesting discussion to be had (see @mcpw).

I agree. And not everyone checks the site every minute, some people have a life unlike me, so that's why I've been doing 21 hours.

 

[Jets4Life]

Geez....not looking good for our 2016 first round draft pick Logan Stanley.

Add: Nic Kerdiles

 

[puck stoppa]

Repost:

2017-18 Dylan Samberg 5v5 NCAA
42GP
0-5-5
GF%Rel -6.6

Good that the people who watch him play see upside, but I'm not voting for him anywhere near our top5 until his results start looking better than Jack Glover's. Some people saw upside in him, too.​

Good WJC is nice, but the biggest part of any player's season is the 600+ minutes of 5v5 they play during their regular season. I'll be waiting for Samberg to do anything there. He hasn't moved the needle so far. Two primary points in 42 games, sounds like replacement level.

Went with the Swedish Lowry who scored six 5v5 goals in the SHL at 17.

I like Gus and think I'll vote for him next. His skating worries me but rest looks great. I was gonna go Lemmy next as he's ready but I think Gus has far more upside.

 

[puck stoppa]

Geez....not looking good for our 2016 first round draft pick Logan Stanley.

Add: Nic Kerdiles

Stanley should slot in somewhere before 10 which is fine with me. We had Appleton 19 last year before his first pro year. Next year will be most telling for Stanley.

 

[Gil Fisher]

Shut it down....they're already dead.