Jets Top Prospects Poll: #2 Prospect

[truck]

Prospect pool is not deep like it used to be. It's kinda hard to say who to add even at this point, when the player will be close to a top 10 ranking. I think arguments could be made for Suess, Smith, Berdin, Green, Gawanke, Kraskovsky. Based on personal preference you could even have 3rd tier (IMO) guys like Kovacevic, Vallati, Moe, Cederholm, Chrisholm, Bourque, Harkins, Nogier in there somewhere. If we get a single NHL regular out of those 14 names that's probably pretty good.

I'll go with Green to add.

I have Kraskovsky 10-15 spots below the rest of your 2nd group and Cederholm even lower, like near last.

I agree with the rest of the groupings though.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

There is Niku and Vesalainen, then a big gap to the next one, whoever people think should be next.

 

[truck]

There is Niku and Vesalainen, then a big gap to the next one, whoever people think should be next.

For me...
Samberg
Appleton
Gustafsson
Spacek
...not necessarily in that order.

Add Green.

 

[surixon]

Fairly easy choice on this one. Niku has shown terrific growth and has performed very well against pro competetion the last few seasons.

He has the tools and mind to succeed in the new NHL. I feel fairly confident that his offense and puck moving ability will translate at a decent level in the NHL. Not all that sold on his ability to defend which might limit his upside but am still fairly optimistic that he will be a good second pairing dmen.

Add Green.

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

is it worth allowing people 2 or 3 votes for each poll for the remaining top 20? probably lead to more reliable results.

 

[Gm0ney]

I thought Niku-Vesalainen was a toss-up, so I'm perfectly content with Vesa as #1 and Niku as #2.

Add Green.

 

[Jets4Life]

I have Kraskovsky 10-15 spots below the rest of your 2nd group and Cederholm even lower, like near last.

I agree with the rest of the groupings though.

I agree. Kraskovsky just signed a contract with his KHL team, and may never come to North America. Cederholm has not made too many strides since we drafted him.

 

[rehf]

Easy Niku vote.

Add: Berdin

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

I sent the OP a list I compiled. Until it gets posted the rest of you can use this. Currently sorted by draft year/position:

note: (RL stands for "reserved list") (* in DP indicates drafted by another organization) (2 letter country codes in use)

updated:

TEAM

CONTRACT

PLAYER

DATE OF BIRTH

AGE

DRAFT YEAR

DRAFT POSITION

SHOOTS

ROLE

POSITION

HEIGHT

WEIGHT

NATIONALITY

JETS

RFA-2020

JACK ROSLOVIC

1997-01-29

21

2015

1-025

R

F

RW

6'1"

187

US

JR.

RFA-2021

MIKHAIL BERDIN

1998-03-01

20

2016

6-157

R

G

G

6' 2"

163

RU

MOOSE

RFA-2018

NIC KERDILES

1994-01-11

24

2012

2-036

L

F

LW

6' 2"

196

US

MOOSE

RFA-2018

ERIC COMRIE

1995-07-06

23

2013

2-059

L

G

G

6' 1"

175

CA

MOOSE

RFA-2019

BRENDAN LEMIEUX

1996-03-15

22

2014

2-031

L

F

LW

6' 1"

210

US

MOOSE

RFA-2019

NELSON NOGIER

1996-05-27

22

2014

4-101

R

D

RD

6' 2"

191

CA

MOOSE

RFA-2019

C.J. SUESS

1994-03-17

24

2014

5-129

L

F

LW

5' 11"

190

US

MOOSE

RFA-2020

JANSEN HARKINS

1997-05-23

21

2015

2-047

L

F

C

6' 1"

182

US

MOOSE

RFA-2020

MICHAEL SPACEK

1997-04-09

21

2015

3-078

R

F

RW

5' 11"

187

CZ

MOOSE

RFA-2020

MASON APPLETON

1996-01-15

22

2015

6-168

R

F

C

6' 2"

193

US

MOOSE

RFA-2020

SIMON BOURQUE

1997-01-12

21

2015

6-177

L

D

LD

6' 1"

198

CA

MOOSE

RFA-2020

SAMI NIKU

1996-10-10

21

2015

7-198

L

D

LD

6' 1"

176

FI

MOOSE

RFA-2021

LOGAN STANLEY

1998-05-26

20

2016

1-018

L

D

LD

6' 7"

228

CA

MOOSE

RFA-2021

LUKE GREEN

1998-01-12

20

2016

3-079

R

D

RD

6' 1"

188

CA

MOOSE

RFA-2021

SKYLER MCKENZIE

1998-01-20

20

2017

7-198

L

F

LW

5' 8"

154

CA

RL

UNSIGNED

JACK GLOVER

1996-05-17

22

2014

3-069

R

D

RD

6' 3"

198

US

RL

UNSIGNED

PAVEL KRASKOVSKY

1996-11-11

21

2014

6-164

L

F

C/LW

6' 4"

187

RU

RL

UNSIGNED

MATT USTASKI

1994-05-27

24

2014

7-192

L

F

C/LW

6' 6"

223

US

RL

UNSIGNED

JACOB CEDERHOLM

1998-01-30

20

2016

4-097

R

D

RD

6' 4"

187

SE

RL

UNSIGNED

KRISTIAN VESALAINEN

1999-06-01

19

2017

1-024

L

F

LW

6' 3"

207

FI

RL

UNSIGNED

DYLAN SAMBERG

1999-01-24

19

2017

2-043

L

D

LD

6' 3"

190

US

RL

UNSIGNED

JOHNNY KOVACEVIC

1997-07-12

21

2017

3-074

R

D

RD

6' 4"

208

CA

RL

UNSIGNED

SANTERI VIRTANEN

1999-05-11

19

2017

4-105

L

F

C

6' 2"

194

FI

RL

UNSIGNED

LEON GAWANKE

1999-05-31

19

2017

5-136

R

D

RD

6' 1"

186

DE

RL

UNSIGNED

ARVID HOLM

1998-11-03

19

2017

6-167

L

G

G

6' 4"

213

SE

RL

UNSIGNED

CROIX EVINGSON

1997-08-28

20

2017

7-211

L

D

LD

6' 5"

213

US

RL

UNSIGNED

DAVID GUSTAFSSON

2000-04-11

18

2018

2-060

L

F

C

6' 1"

196

SE

RL

UNSIGNED

NATHAN SMITH

1998-10-19

19

2018

3-091

R

F

C

5' 11"

177

US

RL

UNSIGNED

DECLAN CHISOLM

2000-01-12

18

2018

5-150

L

D

LD

6' 0"

185

CA

RL

UNSIGNED

GIOVANNI VALLATI

2000-02-21

18

2018

5-153

L

D

LD

6' 1"

184

CA

RL

UNSIGNED

JARED MOE

1999-07-22

18

2018

6-184

R

G

G

6' 3"

205

US

RL

UNSIGNED

AUSTIN WONG

2000-08-26

17

2018

7-215

R

F

C

5'10"

189

CA

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[Channelcat]

Add Bourque....he'll be coming up real soon on this list. Unfortunately

 

[Holden Caulfield]

I sent the OP a list I compiled. Until it gets posted the rest of you can use this. Currently sorted by draft year/position:

note: (RL stands for "reserved list") (* in DP indicates drafted by another organization) (2 letter country codes in use)

List is incorrect. Stallard and Gennaro both had their rights released by the Jets. Also little to no point in including RD Jack Glover and LW Matt Ustaski as both their rights expire on August 15th this year, neither will be signed.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

For me...
Samberg
Appleton
Gustafsson
Spacek
...not necessarily in that order.

Add Green.

I think Appleton and possibly Samberg are the 2nd level. There is a fairly big drop off again after them. Lemieux should probably be with them. I keep forgetting him. He seems to have been around so long.

Those are the only ones who currently look like relatively high probability to make the NHL. The next group would all have a chance to move up to that tier by this time next year, if they have good seasons. Spacek, Berdin, Green, Kovacevic, Suess, Gustafsson, Smith, Stanley and Harkins are there, in no particular order.

Then there is the 4th group whose chances are very low of ever making the NHL.

I see the gaps between those tiers as being mostly pretty wide. The last 2 are less distinct and probably have some overlap. But it is only the top 2 tiers that are made up of strong prospects. We could probably separate out a 5th group of players with practically zero chance, but why bother?

Yes, add Green.

 

[MardyBum]

Nikuuuu

Add Green.

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

List is incorrect. Stallard and Gennaro both had their rights released by the Jets. Also little to no point in including RD Jack Glover and LW Matt Ustaski as both their rights expire on August 15th this year, neither will be signed.

That why I left their "status" area (far left) blank as I was unsure. I was also going to include deadlines for qualifying offers which would have addressed Glover & Ustaski (who was signed by the Moose back on July 3rd) but the tedium of cutting & pasting into excel got to me by 5am & technically they are still prospects. Had I not included them someone would have pointed out the reverse of what you did. Here' that reserve list. I included everyone from it other than Telegin & Nikulin.

For the future, does anyone know if an excel spreadsheet (.xls) can be loaded into this site?

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

We could probably separate out a 5th group of players with practically zero chance, but why bother?

I forget what year it was, but after we voted on the top 20, we went to 30...then continued even further.

It's the summer. What else are we going to do?

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

Since the outcome of this poll is not in doubt, perhaps get the next one started? Did I mention, add Berdin?

 

[puck stoppa]

I forget what year it was, but after we voted on the top 20, we went to 30...then continued even further.

It's the summer. What else are we going to do?

Someone did a list of remaining prospects and we were allowed multiple votes, that rounded out 20-25 I think.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Appleton not getting enough love.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I forget what year it was, but after we voted on the top 20, we went to 30...then continued even further.

It's the summer. What else are we going to do?

I'm participating in the voting. But we don't have either the strength or the depth of prospects that we had in the last 2-3 years.

 

[Swiftt]

Personally I like the idea of going all the way until we’ve voted on every prospect we have. Getting our top 20 is great, but having a numerical list of every player in the organization is neat.

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

List is incorrect. Stallard and Gennaro both had their rights released by the Jets. Also little to no point in including RD Jack Glover and LW Matt Ustaski as both their rights expire on August 15th this year, neither will be signed.

updated it & removed Stalled & Gennaro. Added another field as well noting contract term.

 

[SLAYER]

Niku is looking like a 7th round grand-slam pick.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Appleton better be 3. Dudes a steal

 

[Conflicted Habs fan]

I personally witnessed Niku play in Montreal when the Jets were visiting Centre Bell. The puck magically always seemed to be where Niku was positioned. Like Gretzky he has above-average positional radar. But I voted Logan Stanley

 

[libertarian]

I'm participating in the voting. But we don't have either the strength or the depth of prospects that we had in the last 2-3 years.

That's because most of our best prospect are now on the big club. This is a good thing not bad.

Considering how many have made it already the fact that we still have Niku, Ssamberg, and Appleton is very encouraging.