Discussion in 'Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk' started by WPG99, Nov 5, 2018.
No Thank You.
This might be worse than just letting the guy walk as a UFA.
Considering what Statsny got last year, 27th overall pick and a fourth rounder. Kane went for 2nd and 4th (both late in the round,) the proposed sounds reasonable. Yea, the Sens have to think Roslovic is going to be an NHLer. Do Sens fans really think they will get more for mid season rental? Plus Perrault gives some respectable help to the Sens for a couple of years.
That Kane 2nd became a 1st. Also, strange how you ignored the Nash return in this analysis.
Yes, the second became a first, but so what? The TDL was in effect for a second. Too bad Wilson compounded the problem with a 7 X 7 contract. Yea Boston overpaid for Nash, but part of the deal was cap dumping to the Rangers, strange how you ignored that in your analysis.
No, its just straight up disingenuous to say that Kane went for a 2nd when it was actually a first.
As for the Nash deal, I never mentioned any part of the return, so you're really reaching to say that I was trying to pretend their was no cap dump. All I did was insinuate that it was a good return (which it undoubtedly was). But, now that you mention it, I'm sure Ottawa would be fine taking on a contract that is 50% retained (resulting in a less than 2M hit for 2 years) in order to get full value.
I don’t think the Jets would target Duchene.
I think Perreault is a non-starter for the Sens honestly and Roslovic, while good, isn't enough value on his own from a Sens perspective. I think a Duchene trade will inevitably end up being quantity over quality and definitely futures based (i.e cheap) to fit the Sens MO. Not bad value necesarily, but definitely more in the vein of "5 nickels for a quarter" type of trade.
Perreault is a warrior. Jets are but to give him up. They’d be better off with a 1st 2019 instead.
Jets pass. Perrault is too expensive for the Jets, but not a cap dump. Roslovic has potential and is still on his ELC. Not a fair trade for a rental that we probably can't afford to sign and may not fit with the Jets in the short term either.
Wouldn't mind doing that, although I like Perreault and Roslo
Then we could basically roll 3 top-6 lines and a shutdown line
Lemieux, Myers (1.5m retained) and a 2nd in 2020 for Duchene.
Zero interest in Duchene. Regardless of the price to acquire.
So you're saying the Sens would rather have nickels than Roslovic?
People are using the Statsny and Kane trades as comparables. I value Roslovic much higher than the main components of those deals. Roslovic for Duchene straight across is a win for the Sens, IMO.
The Jets have zero need for a cancer like that guy.
He's a cancer, just like Evander.
Roslovic is significantly better than any single asset the Sens will get for Duchene if they move him as a rental at the deadline.
Sens would need a 1st round pick plus a prospect.
Matty P is a top 6 player on a bargain contract he shouldn’t be going anywhere.
Roslovic doesn’t get you Duchene.
Sure, but if the Sens hold out for a better asset than him they'll be left holding the bag.
Better packages will be available. Better individual assets will not.
And to be clear, I'm not saying the Sens should take this offer. I'm just pointing out that, for any rental, Roslovic is already a more valuable asset than typically gets moved.
If the Sens are shooting for a package of lottery tickets, say a 1st, 2nd, and middle of the road prospect, they'll get it. If they think they're going to get good young NHL players with untapped potential, they'll be left holding the bag.
I would pass on Duchene, not the guy I would want on our team. Black cloud follows this guy around like a plague
Yeah, no thanks
It does make you wonder. The Avs seem like a much happier team without him and the Sens seem like a much sadder team with him?
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