Would offer either the rights to Tryamkin or Goldobin + but I could very much see the Canucks flipping Gaunce.
I wouldn't do either of those. I am still a optimist that Tryamkin will come back in a couple of years and I want to give Goldobin a real top 6 look before we cut ties. Gaunce or Motte I would easily flip for him but not sure why the Jets would trade him for NHL/AHL tweeners.Would offer either the rights to Tryamkin or Goldobin + but I could very much see the Canucks flipping Gaunce.
This trade does not improve Edmonton immediately in any way. Trading away their 3rd best forward for 2 unproven players is the exact opposite of what Edmonton should be doing. Roslovic is a nice piece, but he's not worth RNH, and Petan at this point is likely worth a 3rd or late 2nd at most.Petan might be a great fit with McDavid. I mean he's about 200 pounds lighter than Lucic and 10x faster and more skilled. Petan + Roslovic for RNH could be a good base to work around. Add ins where necessary. RNH could fit between Ehlers and Laine. That trade improves both teams immediately. Hate to give up Roslovic but would consider it at least.
Why do threads about low value players ALWAYS end up in proposals where they're the least valuable piece in trades? Nic Petan is a LONG ways away from getting you Nugent-Hopkins. Petan is waiver-eligible. His value is about as high as Ty Rattie's is right now. As an Oiler fan, I'd have time for him, but I'm thinking a mid-round pick or maybe a prospect like Markus Niemelainen.This trade does not improve Edmonton immediately in any way. Trading away their 3rd best forward for 2 unproven players is the exact opposite of what Edmonton should be doing. Roslovic is a nice piece, but he's not worth RNH, and Petan at this point is likely worth a 3rd or late 2nd at most.
I'd have interest in Petan for a draft pick, but thats about it. RNH isn't going anywhere unless its for a PP QB, and even then I doubt they look to move him.
Not sure. I was probably being generous saying a 3rd or late 2nd in all honesty. They'd need to find someone who believes in him to offer that, and if they don't deal him and he can't find a regular spot in the lineup this year then he will be gone for nothing on waivers quite likely.Why do threads about low value players ALWAYS end up in proposals where they're the least valuable piece in trades? Nic Petan is a LONG ways away from getting you Nugent-Hopkins. Petan is waiver-eligible. His value is about as high as Ty Rattie's is right now. As an Oiler fan, I'd have time for him, but I'm thinking a mid-round pick or maybe a prospect like Markus Niemelainen.
Yep, or eating popcorn again in the pressbox.Not sure. I was probably being generous saying a 3rd or late 2nd in all honesty. They'd need to find someone who believes in him to offer that, and if they don't deal him and he can't find a regular spot in the lineup this year then he will be gone for nothing on waivers quite likely.
Yeah that's usually the case. Unless of course you're Toronto with Leivo and Corrado.Yep, or eating popcorn again in the pressbox.
Teams usually cater to these guys though. Pro teams are realistic. If they think a kid deserves a shot but know he's not going to get one in their organization, they'll do him a solid at this point. There's a lot of pride in just developing these guys.
This trade does not improve Edmonton immediately in any way. Trading away their 3rd best forward for 2 unproven players is the exact opposite of what Edmonton should be doing. Roslovic is a nice piece, but he's not worth RNH, and Petan at this point is likely worth a 3rd or late 2nd at most.
I'd have interest in Petan for a draft pick, but thats about it. RNH isn't going anywhere unless its for a PP QB, and even then I doubt they look to move him.
Not for RNH they shouldn't. RNH has shown he can play wing with McDavid, and produced very well in the 14 or 15 games he spent on wing to end the season. We also know he can play top 6 centre if McDavid or Drai get injured so why on earth would we want to trade him for a downgrade in Roslovic and a potential waiver wire player in Petan? Sounds like an awful gamble that is likely to further dilute the skill in the Oilers forward group.Roslovic is a top 6 winger/potential center and Petan is unknown. Edmonton needs speed and skill and those two players address that. Having 3 centers (McD Dra RNH) seems redundant if you just put cavemen who can't skate around them. Sure don't be excited about Petan who knows about him, but Roslovic is exactly the kind of player Edm should be targetting.
f*** no. Samorukov is good. Those guys are waiver eligible.Id be open to moving 2 3rds for Dano and Petan. Maybe add a prospect like Samurukov.
Isn't Perrault very good defensively? Petan is a pretty big curveball as to what he brings to the table in his absence.Given the upcoming salary cap crunch and if the Jets were looking at possibly signing Stastny, the Jets should be selling off Perreault.
Not sure that Petan is necessarily out with the Jets for this year. I would rather not divest the team of young, cheap and potentially top 9 players.
Jets motto these days is to allow players to ripen in the AHL. You’d think that Petan will now be given an opportunity next year if they move Perreault out.
That is demonstrably not true.Not defending other Jets Homers (because there's a lot of them) but you clearly over value draft picks vs players. Any pick after #30 has about a 1-50 chance of becoming even a 4th line NHLer or press boxer.
Isn't Perrault very good defensively? Petan is a pretty big curveball as to what he brings to the table in his absence.
Perreault would be a great add for the Oilers. He's quick, and can drive possession injustice about any line. But I'm not sure what the Oilers have that would entice the Jets to move him.Yep, Perreault has a very good two-way game and you can move him up and down the line-up. A bit injury prone and can be streaky.
However, at some point soon, he’s a luxury that we will not be able to retain.
What would Perreaults value be? Does he ever play C still?Given the upcoming salary cap crunch and if the Jets were looking at possibly signing Stastny, the Jets should be selling off Perreault.
Not sure that Petan is necessarily out with the Jets for this year. I would rather not divest the team of young, cheap and potentially top 9 players.
Jets motto these days is to allow players to ripen in the AHL. You’d think that Petan will now be given an opportunity next year if they move Perreault out.
I can see that on his tombstone.My guess is he will be used as a sweetener in a contract dump.
That's what generally happens for 2nd round picks that get to the point in which waivers are an issue and can't crack the NHL lineup consistently. Tangradi returned a 6th, Dalpe essentially a 4th, Pirri a 3rd+5th, Prince a 3rd, etc. The notable deviation was Vey, not a 2nd round pick, who somehow pulled a 2nd.
Tryamkin sparks some interest for me but would need some cost certaintyWould offer either the rights to Tryamkin or Goldobin + but I could very much see the Canucks flipping Gaunce.