Speculation: Jets need of a top right defense

[whajetfan]

First time member to hfboards, first time post. I enjoy the speculative thoughts and comments here for trades.
The Jets desperately need a top R dman, preferably one that shoots right. They have no prospects in that category and the only logic is to trade for one. Burns from the sharks would be ideal . The sharks are in rebuild. I would ship Perfetti for a one for one trade.

Make it happen Chevy... or the Jets fans shall start shopping for a Ford...

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[CraigsList]

I wouldn’t trade Perfetti. He is gonna be a good one.

My advice would be waiting until the off-season to throw some money at Dougie Hamilton if he’s an FA. If not, then yes, could probably explore finding one.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Trouba for Perfetti

 

[CraigsList]

Trouba for Perfetti

Oh yes, how could Trouba resist returning to the place where he started and bailed? At the lowly cost of one of the top prospects in the NHL?

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

If we trade for a top RHD, it just screws us for expansion and we'll end up losing a better player. We already have Morrissey, Pionk and arguably DeMelo (as bad as he's been lately), so giving up an asset for another D-man that requires protection guarantees we lose a half-decent defenseman anyway. That's poor asset management.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

There's literally nobody so no point in ranting about it. Just either hope one of our RHD prospects pan out or put a LHD on the right side until a RHD comes back up. Pionk is as good as it gets, and at the moment DeMelo.

 

[I Like Eich]

First time member to hfboards, first time post. I enjoy the speculative thoughts and comments here for trades.
The Jets desperately need a top R dman, preferably one that shoots right. They have no prospects in that category and the only logic is to trade for one. Burns from the sharks would be ideal . The sharks are in rebuild. I would ship Perfetti for a one for one trade.

Make it happen Chevy... or the Jets fans shall start shopping for a Ford...

Welcome! I frequent every once in a blue moon for the speculation as well...

I've been banging on the Ristolainen to WPG drum for years now, do you think they'd still be interested? There have been rumors in the past linking the player and team in trade speculation. Ristolainen is by no means a perfect player and definitely has his faults, but as someone who has watched nearly every game he's played as a Sabre, I know he's very talented and has a lot more to give if given a restart in a better setting and situation. The environment in Buffalo has run beyond stale and we definitely need a shake-up.

We've got Montour at RHD to trade as well for much less of an ask back than Risto, but again since I watch every Sabres game, my advice... I'd run away from that idea.

 

[Kuznetsnow]

At the risk of starting a shitstorm, DeAngelo.

40 games of getting drill sergeant treatment from Wheeler in the icy tundras of Winnipeg while knowing he's on his last last chance. And if he messes up the buyout is like 800k. No one else with remotely the same level of value/talent disparity

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Letang could be available down the road....

 

[I Like Eich]

There's literally nobody so no point in ranting about it. Just either hope one of our RHD prospects pan out or put a LHD on the right side until a RHD comes back up. Pionk is as good as it gets, and at the moment DeMelo.

Sabres have RHD (both roster and prospects) available that we'd move... you'll just have to adjust your definition of a "top" RHD slightly... (nobody acquires any top RHD via trade without paying a king's ransom anyways, if we're being honest)

Roster:
Ristolainen
Montour
Miller

Prospects:
Borgen
Laaksonen
Fitzgerald

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Sabres have RHD (both roster and prospects) available that we'd move... you'll just have to adjust your definition of a "top" RHD slightly... (nobody acquires any top RHD via trade without paying a king's ransom anyways, if we're being honest)

Roster:
Ristolainen
Montour
Miller

Prospects:
Borgen
Laaksonen
Fitzgerald

I'd be down for Ristolainen but I think that ship has sailed in terms of acquiring him.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

If we trade for a top RHD, it just screws us for expansion and we'll end up losing a better player. We already have Morrissey, Pionk and arguably DeMelo (as bad as he's been lately), so giving up an asset for another D-man that requires protection guarantees we lose a half-decent defenseman anyway. That's poor asset management.

No GM, Chevy included, is going to let the possibility of losing a DeMelo level player get in the way of acquiring a top-pairing RHD. His rental value was a 3rd and he signed for $3 mil; the league doesn’t value him highly. There are reasons why this probably won’t happen, from acquisition cost to general availability, but this is not one.

 

[Vitto79]

Tony D is your man

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Ducks can trade you Manson

 

[Troy]

Id wait til what happens after the expansion draft.

 

[Cas]

I would be ecstatic if a Burns for Perfetti trade were actually made, but from the Jets perspective I think it's a bad deal.

 

[Kaen]

No GM, Chevy included, is going to let the possibility of losing a DeMelo level player get in the way of acquiring a top-pairing RHD. His rental value was a 3rd and he signed for $3 mil; the league doesn’t value him highly. There are reasons why this probably won’t happen, from acquisition cost to general availability, but this is not one.

This guy is pretty on point.

At the risk of starting a shitstorm, DeAngelo.

40 games of getting drill sergeant treatment from Wheeler in the icy tundras of Winnipeg while knowing he's on his last last chance. And if he messes up the buyout is like 800k. No one else with remotely the same level of value/talent disparity

Pretty hard no.

Welcome! I frequent every once in a blue moon for the speculation as well...

I've been banging on the Ristolainen to WPG drum for years now, do you think they'd still be interested? There have been rumors in the past linking the player and team in trade speculation. Ristolainen is by no means a perfect player and definitely has his faults, but as someone who has watched nearly every game he's played as a Sabre, I know he's very talented and has a lot more to give if given a restart in a better setting and situation. The environment in Buffalo has run beyond stale and we definitely need a shake-up.

We've got Montour at RHD to trade as well for much less of an ask back than Risto, but again since I watch every Sabres game, my advice... I'd run away from that idea.

While he'd be a good pickup, I don't see anything I think the Jets would be willing to part with that the Sabres would even consider.

 

[Atoyot]

I'd rather see what we have in house and then filling needs if they still exist rather than trading futures to fill holes and keeping in house players from getting opportunities a la Roslovic. The Jets' prospect pool could look a lot better right now if we'd just given him a chance at 2C instead of trading 1sts. Now we don't have those 1st round picks or Roslovic. Who himself was also a 1st round pick.

 

[I Like Eich]

I'd be down for Ristolainen but I think that ship has sailed in terms of acquiring him.

You're probably right, and the Sabres lack of stability in the front office is probably the reason for that.

Quite sure it was the 2019 offseason (year after Ehler's worst as a Jet) that something around Risto for Ehlers was being floated... still lose sleep wondering if that was actually true or not. What a huge miss by Buffalo if it was.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

The Jets' defense works/tries hard but are simply overwhelmed. It's the biggest deficiency they have IMO and is preventing them being a true competitor.

 

[Leonardo87]

Kevin Shattenkirk is your guy. Dude has been awesome this season, and with Drysdale coming up as early as next season, need to open a spot for him. Will be sad to see Kevin go, but it's ok, Ducks will get by.

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

You're probably right, and the Sabres lack of stability in the front office is probably the reason for that.

Quite sure it was the 2019 offseason (year after Ehler's worst as a Jet) that something around Risto for Ehlers was being floated... still lose sleep wondering if that was actually true or not. What a huge miss by Buffalo if it was.

Jets fans have never wanted to trade Ehlers, I do remember it being included in a lot of proposals, but never got any support on our side. I can't think of many players that would make us a better team overall if we lost #27 to get them; his zone entries, speed and transition play are very rare in the league.

 

[I Like Eich]

While he'd be a good pickup, I don't see anything I think the Jets would be willing to part with that the Sabres would even consider.

At risk of sounding like the crazy, delusional fan posting garbage online in a message board... as long as it doesn't involve Eichel, Dahlin, or Cozens, at this point I'm probably listening.

Not saying I want to sell everything but those 3... just saying a big, maybe surprising, shake-up move where the Sabres trade a widely considered high-value player/prospect is not off the table in my mind.

We're about to hit 10 straight seasons without playoffs this season (couldn't even make it in the expanded playoffs last year - unreal)
I'm open to a lot of different trade ideas at this point

 

[themelkman]

Burns wont be traded right now and he also has a NTC 3 teams. No way WPG is one of them.

 

[I Like Eich]

Jets fans have never wanted to trade Ehlers, I do remember it being included in a lot of proposals, but never got any support on our side. I can't think of many players that would make us a better team overall if we lost #27 to get them; his zone entries, speed and transition play are very rare in the league.

No doubt. Even at the time, after the down year from Ehlers, Jets fans were majority against trading Ehlers was the response back I got at the time, so no argument there... just bringing it up cause it was very hot in the rumor mill then. I would've put the full press on from the BUF side if I knew there was even a real chance of them pulling it off. Ehler's speed and finishing ability on Eichel's wing had me salivating.