McKenzie: Jets likely pursuing Mark Stone

[Hunter368]

Going to get Jet dogs

 

[Highway1]

You aren't getting a signed stone for Roslovic as your main piece, lol.

And you’re not getting Connor

 

[Artanis]

And you’re not getting Connor

If he's signed we are.

 

[Kranix]

With all the Dorion meeting Cheveldayoff stuff Shawn Simpson still tweets he thinks Stone is most likely going to Vegas

 

[Hunter368]

If he's signed we are.

That becomes a near pointless trade and is not logical. Making near lateral trades won’t happen. Jets core won’t be traded.......bottom 6 or futures or prospects yes.

 

[Kranix]

Folks. There's no sign and trade. There will be conditions on the picks dependent on whether he eventually re-signs with the new team. He's a rental.

 

[Hunter368]

Folks. There's no sign and trade. There will be conditions on the picks dependent on whether he eventually re-signs with the new team. He's a rental.

Correct

 

[BigZ65]

Folks. There's no sign and trade. There will be conditions on the picks dependent on whether he eventually re-signs with the new team. He's a rental.

Exactly. If Ottawa got him to sign a piece of paper they wouldn't deal. If they don't, he can't sign with a new team until they own his current contract.

 

[Heldig]

Jets are either playing like they are waiting for a trade OR they simply dont have it this year.

 

[Hunter368]

Jets are either playing like they are waiting for a trade OR they simply dont have it this year.

I’ve said all year, they aren’t in the “zone” this entire year. They need to get their crap together soon or it will be a short playoff

 

[Kranix]

Did Chevy tell the boys not to hit Stone tonight?

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

We aren't getting a top 6 roster player for Stone. If it was a summer deal, different story, but whoever is trading for Stone is looking to bolster the squad, not remove one of their top 6 forwards/top 4 dmen.

 

[Korpse]

Turris signed after he was traded. What relation did that have to the trade?

The relation to the trade is that Nashville made the trade and gave up the assets they did because they knew Turris was going to sign. It was something which was discussed prior to the trade and Nashville's involvement was dependant on it. Call it a trade and sign if you want, the order is irrelevant.

 

[Snowman]

If he's signed we are.

In your dreams, yes. In reality, not even the remotest chance you get Connor.

 

[BigZ65]

The relation to the trade is that Nashville made the trade and gave up the assets they did because they knew Turris was going to sign. It was something which was discussed prior to the trade and Nashville's involvement was dependant on it. Call it a trade and sign if you want, the order is irrelevant.

And the price was still consistent with the price for a full season for a UFA of Turris' level.

 

[Korpse]

And the price was still consistent with the price for a full season for a UFA of Turris' level.

I don't think Nashville gives up Girard if Turris isn't agreeing to a new contract but maybe that's me, not to mention the dynamics of a three way trade make things a little more complicated. You've got to be extremely ignorant to suggest a team isn't comfortable giving up a better package for a player that they know will sign. When a team lets a player talk contract with a potential trade partner its gets reported for a reason. I'm not saying a sign and trade or however you want to order it will happen but its worth a discussion. To completely dismiss it's merits is dumb.

 

[Daffy]

That becomes a near pointless trade and is not logical. Making near lateral trades won’t happen. Jets core won’t be traded.......bottom 6 or futures or prospects yes.

It's not lateral. Stone is so much better than Connor it's not funny. And Connor is really good.

 

[Hunter368]

It's not lateral. Stone is so much better than Connor it's not funny. And Connor is really good.

Yes Stone > Connor, but

Adding Stone while removing Connor isn't a significant impact on the team overall which defeats the purpose of the trade. Cup contenders don't remove core pieces, they add them to improve their chances. Trading Connor for Stone makes the Jets older, bigger cap and incrementally better "overall"........not really much of a benefit factoring in losing Connor, getting older and bigger cap hit.

Adding Stone while maintaining the current core significantly helps the Jets and would be the only reason to do the trade. The only way of achieving this is by trading non core pieces and/or futures/prospects (ie not Connor).

 

[Artanis]

That becomes a near pointless trade and is not logical. Making near lateral trades won’t happen. Jets core won’t be traded.......bottom 6 or futures or prospects yes.

Pointless trade and not logical? Better shut this site down then. Good one.

 

[CupInSIX]

Did Chevy tell the boys not to hit Stone tonight?

Could you imagine if Byfuglien injured Stone

 

[Bourdon]

Could you imagine if Byfuglien injured Stone

With like a crowbar while walking to the rink? Because buff did not play tonight

 

[heilongjetsfan]

Sell me on Stanley. Why would the Sens want Stanley?

My favourite thing about Stanley is his puck protection and his outlet passes. He's supremely confident with the puck and gives himself time when under pressure from forecheckers to find the right recipient. Forechecking him is almost totally useless.

 

[MardyBum]

Unless we have a contract for Mark Stone as coach it's not worth it.

 

[h2]

Folks. There's no sign and trade. There will be conditions on the picks dependent on whether he eventually re-signs with the new team. He's a rental.

That's likely the case, but I don't think you should be talking in absolutes. Anything could happen, including a sign and trade. Dorion is a bad GM, but he's been involved in a couple sign and trades already in his short tenure as GM where you can't completely rule it out as a possible scenario.

 

[Jets]

Really just wanna see how it plays out now given all the hostility in this thread.