Player Discussion Jesse Puljujarvi '18-19 Season Part 5, Jesse Bumped Up the Line-up

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  1. I am the Liquor

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    You can’t fix stupid.
     
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    You can if stupid plays are from no confidence.
     
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    This is true. I see it as much more than that. When his skating looks as bad as it is, it's more than confidence.
     
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    Go back and watch the highlights from Jan 19. The Puljujarvi who split the d and made a nice pass to RNH is the player I want to see more of. He had a few of those moments early in the season as well. Needs to get consistent though.
     
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    This seems to be the writing on the wall, especially since he’s ”Chia’s pick” and is likely moved when the next GM cleans house. The sad part is that the org really seems to give up on its players all too often, which is evident from the Oilers’ various trade tales over the years with and without Chia involvement.

    JP has now played 3 seasons in the NA, and after some team takes him for a 3rd or so, they’ll have an actual chance to develop a 20-yo kid into an everyday NHLer. If you compare that to a 3rd round pick the team should be popping champagne bottles if they manage to get 200 games out of whoever they get with that pick. The only way the Oilers don’t lose any more face is that JP busts for good and goes to KHL or whatever, but I’m just not convinced. Either way it seems like a good time to unsubscribe from this thread, and we’ll see what team he plays for next season.
     
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    If I was JP I would sign in Europe for next season. This way he gets top minutes and forces Edmonton to trade him.
     
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    Like Nichuskin and Sobotka?
     
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    The pass in question was accidental. His stick was moved by an opponent. as comical as it is, Pulju didn't even make his most impressive pass of the season. it was incidental. That you even have to go back a month for a play he was involved in is every reason to also question this player. he has 9pts on the season. he has 37 in his entire career here and only 17 goals. Its a bit of a laugh that a complete washup, Yakupov, scored that many in his first year in a lock out shortened 48GP season.

    Its depressing to even compare him to Yakupov because Nail clearly had a shot but was not much more clear how to get into positions to use it.
     
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    Technically wasn't ruined. He never had the scoring touch AND was afraid of his shadow hitting him
     
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    You say it’s incidental, I say it was a great play by a player being hounded by 2 dmen. That’s the exact type of play he was making as a junior which is why he was ranked so high. That’s his game, if he can ever do it consistently watch out.
     
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    Its actually simple. He didn't make the pass. his stick was bumped and the puck inadvertently went where it did. That was the funniest thing about that play. People, even myself were initially thinking finally Pulju made a nice play on a rush. Only to find out the apparent pass was due to a stick bump.

    Unless you think random chance like that can be replicated endlessly its nothing more than an accident. Pulju's hands and touch are awful. Maybe he gets some of his coordination back, who knows, but he doesn't have dexterity.
     
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    I think one reason why he plays so close to the puck carrier is that he's literally spent his entire life having people give him the puck to lug it and he doesn't know how to play a "quiet" game to find space or open things up for someone else to carry it. He plays like he expects someone to give him the puck.

    It's a major problem at this level given that Puljujarvi, even if he were to be 100% in form, would still likely be the fourth best puck carrier on the team.

    He's in a bit of a catch 22 because you can tell he's desperately trying to find his game again so he's trying to force his natural style at times, but his teammates recognise he's struggling so they don't want to give him the puck in those positions.
     
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    Send him down to the AHL for a while.
     
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    He got rocked a few times and got him shy for sure.

    Looked good versus the Leafs the other night.
     
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    You’re seeing what you want to see on that play.
     
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    That us not what you said. You said he would struggle in the AHL. Got sent down for four games with little to no practices qith his linemates and scored 4 points. That is not struggling.

    That is at a lit better pace than what Logan Brown or Ty Jost are putting up. Do you see those teams trying to offload them for a 3rd round pick? We knew Jesse was going to take longer to develop. Writing him off at 20 years old is ridiculous.

    Look at what Ryan Johansen did at his draft plus 3 year. If you were the GM of Columbus you would have traded him for a 3rd round pick. Slick move.

    Ryan Johansen Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com
     
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    RyJo was also a kid from the WHL who didn’t have to adjust to NA hockey. I am betting they’re glad they got Seth Jones for him instead of a 3rd round pick.
     
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    It isn't directly the production that's an issue with Pulju and never was.

    It's his overall game not looking nowhere close to NHL ready.

    Johansen looked good in the AHL and NHL just didn't produce.
     
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    RyJo didn’t look good in the NHL that season. Not at all. There was major talk of him maybe only ever being a decent non shutdown 3rd line center as his peak. And honestly how many of his AHL games did you watch?
     
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    Personally no but I heard lots of people talking about him and being optimistic.

    I never heard any of the potential bust talk with him.

    And even so, he was better on the NHL that year then Pulju is now.
     
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    See you’re just wrong here. The way the defenders stick hits Puljujarvi’s. The puck should have went straight sideways towards the sideboards, but it doesn’t do that. Puljujarvi kept enough control of the puck that even when he got stick checked, he got it back to the player he knew was flying down the wing. It was really an incredible play. And I’d say it’s a fluke if I didn’t see him make those same types of plays at the WJC’s.
     
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    Puljujarvi looking right at RNH before the defenders stick even hits his. Puljujarvi also has a nice pick on the play to keep the lane open for RNH.

    Edit: I say play him on the 3rd line and tell the guys you want him carrying the puck. Would be interesting to see what happens.
     
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    More of that please
     
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