Player Discussion Jesse Puljujarvi '18-19 Season Part 5, Jesse Bumped Up the Line-up

[nabob]

Sure, good and great are 2 separate things...but that's not the point, you isolating a single game to try and justify attacking posters is

Last I checked, saying he scored " a sweet goal" is a compliment. But keep making up bs

You did say one compliment. But then followed it up with your typical drivel.

Thanks for proving my point. Doesn’t matter if he plays good, great or normalish. You’ll still go off topic to slag the player.

 

[bobbythebrain]

You did say one compliment. But then followed it up with your typical drivel.

Thanks for proving my point. Doesn’t matter if he plays good, great or normalish. You’ll still go off topic to slag the player.

As I said, you missed the point. Or my guess, intentionally ignored it.

But seeing as you're being called out by multiple posters in the last few pages as to the motives of your posts, you'd think some alarm bells would go off...no?

 

[nabob]

As I said, you missed the point. Or my guess, intentionally ignored it.

But seeing as you're being called out by multiple posters in the last few pages as to the motives of your posts, you'd think some alarm bells would go off...no?

I got the point. It had nothing to do with my post and was simply you needing to slag Puljujarvi and attack me as a poster.

 

[The Burning GOAT]

What I understand about this thread are 1) some people’s frustration with Pulju’s overall game and effectiveness and 2) some people’s willingness to give him time to develop and focus on the positives, which to some seem like ”being on the defensive.”

What I don’t understand is the overall tone where posts tend to be about trashing posters, speculation about their ”agenda” or a potential ”narrative being pushed.” This eats way too much into the quality of discussion and creates unnecessary antagonism. It’s also a lazy way of discrediting opinions with fits-all internet wasteland debate schemes instead of posing counter-arguments that fit the actual topic.

And as a trend, it’s also elsewhere on these boards, which is very frustrating.

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

One thing I dislike is when he skates backwards when the puck is coming up into the offensive zone behind him---like always facing the puck....skating towards the puck.....when his line has possession.

Sort of noticed it before....noticed it again today.

 

[Llamamoto]

Jesse has 5 points in his past 12 games. Not amazing, I know, but the stats are coming.

 

[EXTRAS]

People treated RNH poorly when he was young too. If pulj becomes a 50-60 point winger, then that's still a nice compliment for this team.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Nice little play off the wall to get Nuge the puck in a dangerous position. I recall him making a similar player when he was playing with RNH and Connor that resulted in a RNH goal. After a couple of really rough games he has been rebounding his game and making positive strides again.

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

Turn pulju into a centre

 

[Soundwave]

I don't think he'll ever be any kind of stud player or anything, but I'm seeing mild signs of a pulse where I'd be more inclined to keep him for another season on a cheap deal rather than shopping him and getting some low ball deal.

 

[alesis]

Turn pulju into a centre

No, just give him the puck sooner to carry over to the offensive zone. That is his special skill at the moment, so please use it.

 

[BigTime99]

Looks like he's gaining confidence. The play where he carried the puck through the neutral zone, passed over to nuge and then drove to the net tapping his stick for the pass from lucic. Showed confidence.

 

[MessierII]

I’ve always felt he will become a good player. He’s just never going to be a star. I could still see him becoming a consistent 25-20 guy. He’s getting better and is still super young.

 

[Senor Catface]

So under McLellan he was:
12 games 1 goal no assists 1 point

And under Hitchcock he is:
20 games 3 goals 3 assists 6 points

Not an argument point, just writing some numbers.

 

[Kaptah]

No, just give him the puck sooner to carry over to the offensive zone. That is his special skill at the moment, so please use it.

Zone entries. Another simililarity between Pulju and Olli Jokinen right there. Like OJ, Pulju will become a VERY good player, and many posters will have a lot of delicious crow to eat.

 

[Kaptah]

Excelling at zone entries. Another simililarity between Pulju and Olli Jokinen right there. Like OJ, Pulju will become a VERY good player, and many posters will have a lot of delicious crow to eat.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Looks like he's gaining confidence. The play where he carried the puck through the neutral zone, passed over to nuge and then drove to the net tapping his stick for the pass from lucic. Showed confidence.

That would've been a beautiful goal and a big boost of confidence to Lucic and Puljujarvi. I hope that lines stays together for a bit and goes on a really strong stretch of production.

 

[Stoneman89]

So under McLellan he was:
12 games 1 goal no assists 1 point

And under Hitchcock he is:
20 games 3 goals 3 assists 6 points

Not an argument point, just writing some numbers.

So, the stats say he is on about the same pace, given the increased ice time and bump up the lineup. Extrapolated, should be about 10 gals and 7 assists for the season. H scored 12 goals and 8 assists last year. Not an argument point either, just writing numbers as well.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

So, the stats say he is on about the same pace, given the increased ice time and bump up the lineup. Extrapolated, should be about 10 gals and 7 assists for the season. H scored 12 goals and 8 assists last year. Not an argument point either, just writing numbers as well.

Numbers aside he looked completely lost under Todd this season. Outside of a couple of games after the giveaway on the McDavid line he has looked better than he did pretty much his entire 12 games under Todd this season.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Jesse has 5 points in his past 12 games. Not amazing, I know, but the stats are coming.

That’s good to know. I hope he ends the year consistently getting a point every 2 games. Show some growth.

 

[Stoneman89]

Numbers aside he looked completely lost under Todd this season. Outside of a couple of games after the giveaway on the McDavid line he has looked better than he did pretty much his entire 12 games under Todd this season.

You would think and hope that there would be a natural improvement for a young player as the season goes on. More familiarity with teammates and the level of play.

 

[Daryls Friend]

Numbers aside he looked completely lost under Todd this season. Outside of a couple of games after the giveaway on the McDavid line he has looked better than he did pretty much his entire 12 games under Todd this season.

Pretty subjective/eye of the beholder stuff. Imo marginally better if at all. But I will agree he looks a bit more comfortable

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Hawks fan here.
Would Perlini and Forsling be enough to get you guys to move PoolParty?
Thanks.
PS-It is understandable if you don't want to make another deal with Bowman after the Manning-Caggiula move. Everyone is shocked at that one.

 

[Llamamoto]

Hawks fan here.
Would Perlini and Forsling be enough to get you guys to move PoolParty?
Thanks.
PS-It is understandable if you don't want to make another deal with Bowman after the Manning-Caggiula move. Everyone is shocked at that one.

Not really. Unless we get a similar player to Puljujarvi, or package him for an upgrade, there is no point in trading him for a downgrade + some meh pieces.

He's actually showing a lot of improvement the past few weeks. He played at a 7 point pace under McLellan, and a 25 point pace under Hitchcock, and its even better in his past 10 or so games.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Not really. Unless we get a similar player to Puljujarvi, or package him for an upgrade, there is no point in trading him for a downgrade + some meh pieces.

He's actually showing a lot of improvement the past few weeks. He played at a 7 point pace under McLellan, and a 25 point pace under Hitchcock, and its even better in his past 10 or so games.

Forsling is a good D. He's been injured and caught in a numbers game right now. Has top 4 potential at least. Idk if you guys have a lot of LHD currently right now.