People saying Jesse is a poor defensive player are seriously just making crap up at this point.
Player Discussion Jesse Puljujärvi pt 6
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People saying Jesse is a poor defensive player are seriously just making crap up at this point.
It’s the same how people act like Darnell nurse is the worst defensive player in the league.
I'm on the same boat as you. I don't want to trade him. Our already thin D-corps can't take another hit. Especially if it is a young dman. That said, I would make me really happy if he could lessen his in-game brainfarts.
McYoungGuns
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lol no one is looking to give him away, they would trade in a package for a clear cut better player, if they were to trade him. You said the same stuff about Omark, hows that going for you ?
McYoungGuns
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No wait a minute, you're comparing a rfa to a ufa (different positions as well) also all of Nurse's comps were getting around the same amount with only Theodore (7 years at 5.2) getting longer. Josh Morrissey, whom is def the better player, got a similar 2 year deal (2 years 3.15). Hanifin signed a 6 year at 4.95. All of which were/are better or similar to Nurse
Hanifin signed after 10g 22a 32p in 79gp
Theodore signed after 6g 23a 29p in 61gp
Morrisey signed after 7g 19a 26p in 81gp
Nurse signed after 6g 20a 26p in 82gp
So explain why when his comps signed a similar deal in Morrisey and reasonable deals in both Hanifin and Theodore, why we should have bent to Nurse's demands of over 6 mill a year? Explain why the bridge deal was bad
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KHL-pomo kosiskelee Jesse Puljujärveä avoimesti Venäjälle - agenttitoimistolla tiukka kanta
KHL team Torpedo Nizni Novgorod who owns Jesse's KHL rights has showed interest to sign Jesse.
Just for now this is a rumor and Jesse's agent has said Jesse's goal is to play in NHL next year.
But if there's smoke there's fire too.
KHL team Torpedo Nizni Novgorod who owns Jesse's KHL rights has showed interest to sign Jesse.
Just for now this is a rumor and Jesse's agent has said Jesse's goal is to play in NHL next year.
But if there's smoke there's fire too.
There's also been many articles about his FEL team Kärpät being after him, but his agent Sami Mettovaara said the following: "Jesse won't be playing in Kärpät during the season 2019-20. These bull****shit stories. Jesse will be playing in the NHL next season. Period."
I would be surprised if no KHL or FEL team were chasing him. I wouldn't call that actual smoke in this case, but I guess anything's always possible.
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So no Finland or KHL and set on the NHL after flirting a break up being for the best. This is not going to end well. Sell while you still can and I'm serious. If after 25 games and he's sitting at 4 points the Oil will be lucky to salvage the same return as Yakupov. When you have THAT much God given talent and size and you can't improve even marginally after 100+ games it is a damning demonstration of simply not being able to learn.
In 3 days no one will ever be able to say "he is only 20" again and that point doesn't hold up unless said prospect has shown demonstrable improvement even if it isn't all the time. I'm just not seeing it with JP and I can't say I ever have
Everyone better hope he keeps his brains in his hips
In 3 days no one will ever be able to say "he is only 20" again and that point doesn't hold up unless said prospect has shown demonstrable improvement even if it isn't all the time. I'm just not seeing it with JP and I can't say I ever have
Everyone better hope he keeps his brains in his hips
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The dude is no dude perfect but a nice level-headed fella judging by the impression I got about him while meeting him on a court once.
The problem known as the Strange Odyssey of Jesse Pool Lake if I may offer my objective/neutral take on the issue is manifold. It is a complex, multilayered and what is worst re-iterative/self-sustaining interlock of difficulties, a vicious circle in a sense. There are the problematic cross-cultural factors, group dynamics, the language issue resulting in a severe (non-)communication issue, the well-reported and known gaping holes and serious flaws in Pool's game & on-ice vision which get still magnified by the distressing/stressful situation, the challenges set on the dude¨s mind and abilities by harsh psychological realities. You simply cannot develop properly if at all in a bubble of your own with badly lacking communication skills, low and even lower confidence, all the pressures and uncertainties hanging over you like the sword of Damocles, the fear of failure and the fear of being a failure, a bust being one of them.
How could you even start to sort out this kind of a total mess, let alone in an organisation which has anything but impressive track record in handling difficult developmental (or organisation cultural) issues. You might need an independent external consult (and Jesse might need or benefit from appointing to a shrink) to put all the multifaceted pieces and shards together in the management and in the development of the given player. --- So, what about the Pool Kid, what will become of him? The jury is still out and only time will tell, a truism knows this much, which is not that much. In any case, the prospects are slim he would suddenly bloom, thrive and flourish in his current, pretty non-supportive environment. Let's hope the best though, to all respective parts of the puzzle.
Still an old nursery rhyme reminds us that even all the king's horses, all the king's men couldn't put Humpty Dumpty together again. The last question goes then whether Jesse Pool Lake is the poor Hunpty Dumpty of the Oilers, who once fell from the hype heaven on his butt and never was the same again. The jury is still - out there.
The problem known as the Strange Odyssey of Jesse Pool Lake if I may offer my objective/neutral take on the issue is manifold. It is a complex, multilayered and what is worst re-iterative/self-sustaining interlock of difficulties, a vicious circle in a sense. There are the problematic cross-cultural factors, group dynamics, the language issue resulting in a severe (non-)communication issue, the well-reported and known gaping holes and serious flaws in Pool's game & on-ice vision which get still magnified by the distressing/stressful situation, the challenges set on the dude¨s mind and abilities by harsh psychological realities. You simply cannot develop properly if at all in a bubble of your own with badly lacking communication skills, low and even lower confidence, all the pressures and uncertainties hanging over you like the sword of Damocles, the fear of failure and the fear of being a failure, a bust being one of them.
How could you even start to sort out this kind of a total mess, let alone in an organisation which has anything but impressive track record in handling difficult developmental (or organisation cultural) issues. You might need an independent external consult (and Jesse might need or benefit from appointing to a shrink) to put all the multifaceted pieces and shards together in the management and in the development of the given player. --- So, what about the Pool Kid, what will become of him? The jury is still out and only time will tell, a truism knows this much, which is not that much. In any case, the prospects are slim he would suddenly bloom, thrive and flourish in his current, pretty non-supportive environment. Let's hope the best though, to all respective parts of the puzzle.
Still an old nursery rhyme reminds us that even all the king's horses, all the king's men couldn't put Humpty Dumpty together again. The last question goes then whether Jesse Pool Lake is the poor Hunpty Dumpty of the Oilers, who once fell from the hype heaven on his butt and never was the same again. The jury is still - out there.
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Happy Birthday, Jesse!
At this point, I just hope he'll have a good summer and a solid camp showing. Guess Holland will have an idea what to do by then..
At this point, I just hope he'll have a good summer and a solid camp showing. Guess Holland will have an idea what to do by then..
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I don't think Holland will trade JP this season. He's always been good and patient with Euro players and JP still has a ton of potential. JP will have another solid camp and hopefully our new coach rides with that confidence instead of burying him down the lineup to start the year.
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>Oh he scored 45 the next year? Must have missed that.
As soon as Eakins was gone, and they brought in Nelson, Yak starts scoring again,paired up with Derek Roy . Funny that. Tied for 4th on the team in scoring. 4 goals w/ Eakins, 10 w/ Nelson. Nelson coached 5 more games than Eakins that year, and it took him a bit to get his confidence back.
As soon as Eakins was gone, and they brought in Nelson, Yak starts scoring again,paired up with Derek Roy . Funny that. Tied for 4th on the team in scoring. 4 goals w/ Eakins, 10 w/ Nelson. Nelson coached 5 more games than Eakins that year, and it took him a bit to get his confidence back.
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The Puljujärvi bust threads started 2 years ago when he was still 18 years old. Fans blame management and by all accounts rightfully so.
Even so, I hope that the fanbase soon realizes it's responsibility here too. There's so much toxicity in this city. When someone has a down period they are relentlessly targeted. By now, Puljujärvi might actually be a bust. But there's so many examples of giving up on prospects too soon. Nurse' last two years should be a testiment to that. He was a "hopeless" prospect after his rookie season too
Maybe just maybe, Oilers would be a little bit better if we didn't have thousand and thousand negative posts about 20 YOs
Even so, I hope that the fanbase soon realizes it's responsibility here too. There's so much toxicity in this city. When someone has a down period they are relentlessly targeted. By now, Puljujärvi might actually be a bust. But there's so many examples of giving up on prospects too soon. Nurse' last two years should be a testiment to that. He was a "hopeless" prospect after his rookie season too
Maybe just maybe, Oilers would be a little bit better if we didn't have thousand and thousand negative posts about 20 YOs
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I agree this fanbase can be (way) too negative at times, but if a player doesn't pan out it is because of him or because of the way he was managed. Not because of us.
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This. Most people still dont know what JP is gonna be. If all it takes is a fanbase criticizing their own, LD would've busted as well already
He's obviously good enough against AHL comp and arguably against NHL tweeners too as shown by his preseason performance. It's when the pressure is on him in the NHL to be a top 6 forward where his game breaks down.
Would be a massive disappointment if a top 5 pick only tops out as a bottom 6r.
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Considering Jesse has had some serious injuries with following rehab etc, i´m actually impressed of his numbers. I hope he plays a full season so he can develop his weaknesses, strengths and especially his confidence and mentality. One or two years in Europe and i have a feeling he could become a better Wheeler in the future. I really hope he can show the big finger to Oilers organization and those childish fans commenting on his instagram and hating on him when he had a tough time with everything. Injuries, language and Mclellan and other bad coaches. He´s a good kid and oh boy it would give me pleasure to see him reach that success.
I believe he would be a great fit with Teräväinen and the Canes or with Laine and Scheifele when Wheeler is getting older.
Otherwise i would always love him in that Flyers jersey.
I believe he would be a great fit with Teräväinen and the Canes or with Laine and Scheifele when Wheeler is getting older.
Otherwise i would always love him in that Flyers jersey.
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Nope. JP is not as good as once thought.
He skates into his own players. He has no clue what to do in the offensive zone when he does not have the puck. He can't maintain the cycle.
He would be most productive by getting into open space in the offensive zone and acting as a shooter. Unfortunately, you can't play the role of shooter when you are standing right beside the other forwards on your team watching the puck.
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doing okay with that in Finland.
Oilers have been throwing away young talent since the 90s - check your history
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