Player Discussion Jesse Puljujärvi pt 6

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    Very similar players I would agree, although Puljujarvi doesn’t have the scared beaten dog reaction when it comes to physical contact.

    How does a pick help the team in the near future? Should we deal him for. 2nd round pick that has a 20/30% chance of becoming as good as 20 year old Puljujarvi currently is?
     
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    If you’re writing off Yamamoto as a bust at the NHL level already then this discussion really isn’t worth carrying forward.

    Gagner failing to improving himself as a player after a decade in the league rests on him. He refused to learn to play in his own end of the ice and isn’t a gifted enough athlete to be anything more than he is. Great hands, great offensive IQ, but he like an Olympic swimmer that’s 5 feet tall. As Dave Gagner even said when Sam was drafted “he’ll never be a rabbit, but he could be a fast turtle”.
     
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    He's been surpassed by multiple defencemen goals and points wise in his draft class at this point. He's just not that good.

    I'd move on from the player, send him to someone who still thinks he has value and try to get something decent for him
     
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    Ever notice that every player the Oilers draft has defensive issues and they never correct them? Wonder why that is...

    And yes I am going to write off Yamamoto because this organization is the worst at development. Absolutely horrendous.
     
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    Puljujarvi doesn’t have defensive issues. Either did Paajarvi.

    Players like Gagner and Eberle really just didn’t care enough to be passable defensive players. Offense is about skill, defense is about effort.
     
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    And yet throughout all those years the Oilers are still amongst the worst teams defensively and this year is no exception. What is it this time?
     
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    The organization is rotten right from the top.
     
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    That is an option I hadn’t considered, and your right quite possibly a good option.
     
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    No argument there but the lack of proper development in this org is stunning. I think Nurse was the last first rounder we drafted that didn’t play immediately. That was... what, 2013?
     
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    Giordano fled to the khl when the flames didn't want to pay him. Came back as a whole different player. Different circumstances
     
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    Thank Jebus they sent Bouchard back this year. Puljujarvi should not have played a game for the Oilers in his rookie season especially considering how he was still recovering from a knee injury during camp.
     
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    I don’t have the exact quotes in front of me but I think McLellan basically forced Chiarelli to send him back. Year after year we keep putting rookies into the lineup and it never ever works.
     
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    Bouchard and Yamamoto, literally our last 2 first rounders.
     
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    They played in the NHL right away until the coach forced them to be sent back.
     
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    They got a chance to show what they got and were sent down. Pretty standard.
     
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    Against the GM's wishes at least in Bouchard's case apparently, lol. The Oilers were idiotic lets be honest.
     
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    Yep but they seemed to have smartened up atleast a little bit. (JP aside). Can’t wait to watch our AHL team next year.
     
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    rishaug just speculated this morning that the situation with jesse may have underlying reasons as to why the org is handling him the way they are. he speculates maybe, for example, they are forced to keep him up because the org might have some sort of deal with him and his agent that jesse would only come over from europe only if he's up playing in the NHL, not AHL. he thinks it just doesn't make any sense why the oil are handling him the way they are especially after bobby nicks says they'll be patient with their prospects and over-ripen them in the ahl. jesse clearly looks lost here and definitely belongs in the AHL.
     
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    Because Oilers. That’s why. We don’t need another bogus Rishaug narrative to explain it. It’s history repeating itself with the same people calling the shots.
     
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    There was rumblings last year about this as well.

    At this point though both sides need to scrap this idea and do what's best for his career
     
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    A coach doesn’t force a GM to do anything. A coach makes his recommendations and a GM considers it. Giving top junior aged rookies a trial is common practice.
     
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    At this point, Puljujarvi cant even stickhandle and pass the puck at pewee level. That's on him. Not coaching. its pretty bad. Just send him down. Its a waste of roster spot.
     
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    Yes they gave him a trial but Chiarelli wanted him to stay longer than that. McLellan repeatedly PB'ed him so they wouldn't harm his contract.
     
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    In this case, TM refused to play Bouchard. PC wanted to see him play all the games he could

    Then again there were lots of fans that thought he was doing great and was ready
     

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