Prospect Info: Jesperi Kotkaniemi
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Can't wait to watch him at the Summer Showcase. Can't wait to see him at the Rookie Showdown. And I can't wait to see him at camp.
Unless he's unreal, my preference is that he goes back to Finland. But I won't be mad if he goes to Laval, either.
Unless he's unreal, my preference is that he goes back to Finland. But I won't be mad if he goes to Laval, either.
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It’ll be interesting forsure. This pick was off the map although he made a case for himself. Ballsy high risk high reward kind of pick.
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How is the best center of the draft a high risk pick?
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The pick never was off the map. Thats just juice the uninformed people have been spilling all over Habs land.
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There were puck moving defenceman at an abundance and Tkachuk who would’ve been a safer pick, yet a smaller ceiling as far as projections go.
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Ok sure, there were other options out there.
Again, how is Kotkaniemi a high risk pick?
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Why Ballsy? To me Ballsy would have been picking another winger for his collection.
There's risk with all these young guys, watch Zadina be nothing special, i don't think his play will translate the way some think.
Tkachuk is a 3rd line player no more, he hasn't dominated in any league he has played in.
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Taking a player 3rd OA with skating issues is risky for today's NHL.
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Thanks, sorry i have no clue how to do that on my cellphone.
Zadina has some skating issues as well
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It would’ve been easy to take Zadina/Tkachuk, or one of the defenceman. They took from an area of the biggest need and FAR from a guaranteed at #3. That’s why I call it ballsy. He was the pick I wanted so if he busts, I honestly can’t complain, but there was huge risk with this pick.
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Maybe he has a weird hunched over sance but it didn't look too bad at the development camp...I'm sure he can work on it as many others have. I know he didn't have the best camp early on but as far as his skating goes, he didn't seem much slower than the others.
His dad is his head coach, I'd put my money on Kotkaniemi being worked hard by his dad to improve his weaknesses and excel at center this year.
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yea I would assume he improves his skating over time but it doesn't make it any less risky at 3rd OA. I trust Timmins and I like what I've seen from him, especially his shot so I'm not worried but it was a risky move that hopefully pays off big.
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Well if he goes back to Finland, I hope he plays center. Can't have him play on the wing like he did mostly last season!
He was drafted to be a C and he should develop into a C. If his pops can't put him at C, then I prefer he stay in Laval and play high minutes as a C with the Rocket and develop him at center there!
He was drafted to be a C and he should develop into a C. If his pops can't put him at C, then I prefer he stay in Laval and play high minutes as a C with the Rocket and develop him at center there!
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The "risk" part is that 1 or more players become better players. That said, whoever Habs would have drafted, the risk would have been the same as there was no clear #3 pick.
I think that many use the word risk but they mean "I was high on Zadina" ( or any players drafted after not name Tkachuk).
Even if he end up "only" to be the less good 1C in the league we still manage to finally have a first line center, and that is a upgrade to the current situation.
As long as he is not 1 more prospect that got missmanage we would see him being good for a long time...
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Excited about this kid, could see some potential in him, he really surprised me in the U-18 putting up good points and plays where kids are really competitive and he matched against them without hesitation! Can't wait to watch him this coming season either in Laval or Finland
EDIT: also if we traded Patches for another top 10 pick and getting Zadina/Wahlstrom would be a steal of the draft, instead NYI stole that draft, perfectly excecuted
EDIT: also if we traded Patches for another top 10 pick and getting Zadina/Wahlstrom would be a steal of the draft, instead NYI stole that draft, perfectly excecuted
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I don't give a crap if he gets goals or assists. I just want to see signs of him being above the rest of the prospects. When you draft someone 3rd overall it's because he's in a class above the rest of the guys his age. If there are no clear signs of that in a tournament where the intensity is not even that high, there are actual reasons to be concerned.
I mean. Even Galchenyuk at this age after losing a full year due to injury was dominant in those displays.
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These defensive posts exist for a reason. 'Cause they make sense. There are no summer performances that will ever indicate how great or bad a player is. What indicate more how good he is is how he progresses through an entire season. And to a certain extent, performances over a big tournament like the WJ .
So if something has to stop, it's thinking that a kid is a bust over a summer performance.
There's a thing called potential. You don't draft those kids for what they're now, you draft them for what you project they'll become.
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There are people here preemtively creating excuses for the guy's possible lackluster performance in case he doesn't have a good performance and I'm the one putting a lot of effort in this?
Newsflash; I'm not going to waste a minute of sleep if the guy does good OR bad. I just like to be realistic. Picks can be good or bad. Just because you guys defend everything that has been picked by Timmins doesn't mean the guy can't possibly have badly wasted this pick.
Whitesnake, you've been here long enough to know people will come up with these excuses no matter the context, no matter how good or bad he does in this season. If he stagnates and still plays wings, people will still come up and say we've got our #1C pencilled in.
Nobody talked about saying this guy is a bust based on his performance in a summer show-off. But if at some point the show-offs and "irrevelant games" accumulate where he's just "one prospect among the others", at some point, maybe, MAYBE there MIGHT be valid reasons to be concerned about a 3rd overall pick looking like "just a prospect among the others".
But anyway... If it's so irrelevant. Why are people even paying attention to this game?
You guys say a bad performance means nothing... well the same goes for a good performance, no? So in this case, why are you even wasting your time watching the guy if he has nothing to prove or show in this game?This is kind of contradictory...
For the record. Stats mean nothing, that I can agree. But the guy should look a step or even two above the others. He's been picked 3rd overall. He's supposed to be that much of a special player. He should either show better skating, better abilities, better playmaking, better shooting, better hockey IQ or better defensive accumen than the others...
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Adam Michaels
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There are people here preemtively creating excuses for the guy's possible lackluster performance in case he doesn't have a good performance and I'm the one putting a lot of effort in this?
Look in this thread and look how many are writing long posts about this game/tournament. People are interested but no one's making a big deal out of it. You are the one putting a lot of effort in this.
So your complaint isn't about Timmins' pick, but your gripe is about posters who like this pick, right?
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