Jesperi Kotkaniemi Vs Brady Tkachuk

[Adrianopolous]

Who are you taking on your team right now?

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[PricerStopDaPuck]

Tkachuk is a far better player and always will be so him. But i am glad KK has looked better in the playoffs so far then he has for most of the regular season.

 

[Regal]

Is this necessary?

 

[Canadiens Ghost]

To be fair to Tkachuk, I would like to see him in the playoffs to see what he can do.
KK seems to elevate his game in the playoffs and that is good news for Habs fans.
So right now, Tkachuk in the regular season, playoffs are TBD but KK has a leg up by default.

 

[MarkStone]

It's Tkachuk, this isn't basketball where Hornets era Chris Paul could will a team to a playoff spot, the Sens are a rebuilding team and the league standings reflect that. It's not even a playoff argument because if you look at Brady's game it's clear he would thrive in that environment.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

OP you need to stop

 

[Adrianopolous]

It's Tkachuk, this isn't basketball where Hornets era Chris Paul could will a team to a playoff spot, the Sens are a rebuilding team and the league standings reflect that. It's not even a playoff argument because if you look at Brady's game it's clear he would thrive in that environment.

Explain it if it is so clear?

 

[Korpse]

can we not do this until at least the end of next season, please.

 

[elitepete]

brady ainec

 

[Habano]

I'll easily keep KK

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

KK is one of those players that doesn't wow you in regular season but steps up in playoffs.

 

[Favster]

KK scored last night so it's KK AINEC

 

[Holymakinaw]

B. Tkachuck, all day, every day.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Brady has been the better regular season player, getting more minutes though.

Kk has stepped it up in the post season, but Tkachuk hasn't played in one yet.

I would say it's still Tkachuk, or worst tied until Tkachuk gets into the post season and we can see what he brings.

 

[the paisanos guy]

Didn't we just do this?

Brady's better today but I still take KK on the Habs based purely on team composition. We need him for our center depth, we have lots of wingers.

Hopefully KK can close the gap between them going forward.

 

[wetcoast]

It's Tkachuk, this isn't basketball where Hornets era Chris Paul could will a team to a playoff spot, the Sens are a rebuilding team and the league standings reflect that. It's not even a playoff argument because if you look at Brady's game it's clear he would thrive in that environment.

Pretty much this and while I think KK is a pretty decent young player this shouldn't even be close.

 

[Puikiou]

This is TDS (Tkachuk derangement syndrome).

Get help.

 

[HuGo Sham]

this hot take poll is 5 years early. Too early to evaluate who will have the better career. Tkachuk has had the better career to date but is also about a year older.
Does a team need a strong, physical, two-way C who can chip in 55-60 pts or the power forward agitator who will score 25 a year?
I think both teams are happy right now.

 

[Korpse]

Does a team need a strong, physical, two-way C who can chip in 55-60 pts or the power forward agitator who will score 25 a year?

I like how the player who has never paced to score higher than 35 points is projected to add 25-30 points but the guy who has paced for 25 goals in all 3 seasons is projected to score 25 goals.

 

[HuGo Sham]

I like how the player who has never paced to score higher than 35 points is projected to add 25-30 points but the guy who has paced for 25 goals in all 3 seasons is projected to score 25 goals.

I'm glad you like my projections. Now beat it

 

[Korpse]

I'm glad you like my projections. Now beat it

It made me laugh. I'm glad you have a reasonable explanation.

 

[HuGo Sham]

It made me laugh. I'm glad you have a reasonable explanation.

glad you laughed, most Sens fans have no sense of humour. The initial question was 'who do you take' and I responded it was based on need.
I apologize, let's project Brady at 30 goals a year, better? Maybe more! I like the player a lot- before you or other ottawa fans insecurities get in the way.
As per kotkaniemi, for the 100000th X, his first year numbers in the NHL (youngest player btw) were on par with elite C's.
His second year was a mess and he was injured all year. When he was sent down to rehab he was a point a game player in the AHL. In the bubble he scored
4 in 10 games which essentially flushed Domi out of montreal.
This year, he's still in the top 12 youngest players in the league.
He's gotten yo-yoed with line mates and two coaches who ask different things of him.
and guess what?
NHL centers' playoff goals before age 21:

Kotkaniemi - 7 (and counting)
McDavid - 5
Matthews - 5
Yzerman - 5
Messier - 3
Beliveau - 0
Mario - 0
Dionne - 0
Espo - 0
Sakic - 0
Malkin - 0
Francis - 0
Sundin - 0

now you can look at this as a hot take, or as a reasonable explanation for why i think he will emerge as a 55-60 PT two-way C.
I'm getting tired of having to explain to people factual reality, when they don't actually watch Montreal.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Give me the major disappointment Jespri Kotkaniemi because he scored a goal!!!!!

 

[SensBrawler]

glad you laughed, most Sens fans have no sense of humour. The initial question was 'who do you take' and I responded it was based on need.
I apologize, let's project Brady at 30 goals a year, better? Maybe more! I like the player a lot- before you or other ottawa fans insecurities get in the way.
As per kotkaniemi, for the 100000th X, his first year numbers in the NHL (youngest player btw) were on par with elite C's.
His second year was a mess and he was injured all year. When he was sent down to rehab he was a point a game player in the AHL. In the bubble he scored
4 in 10 games which essentially flushed Domi out of montreal.
This year, he's still in the top 12 youngest players in the league.
He's gotten yo-yoed with line mates and two coaches who ask different things of him.
and guess what?
NHL centers' playoff goals before age 21:

Kotkaniemi - 7 (and counting)
McDavid - 5
Matthews - 5
Yzerman - 5
Messier - 3
Beliveau - 0
Mario - 0
Dionne - 0
Espo - 0
Sakic - 0
Malkin - 0
Francis - 0
Sundin - 0

now you can look at this as a hot take, or as a reasonable explanation for why i think he will emerge as a 55-60 PT two-way C.
I'm getting tired of having to explain to people factual reality, when they don't actually watch Montreal.

Bolded played zero playoff games before age 21 lol. Malkin played 5 games. Yzerman played 7.

So, in the end you can compare him to McDavid, Matthews and Messier. That's still impressive and I think your expectation for Kotkaniemi's potential is reasonable. But you can't call Ottawa fans "insecure" and then leave out info in order to prop up your own player. Someone posted a better list on Reddit. Feel free to use that one.

 

[Filatov2Kovalev2Bonk]

KK scored last night so it's KK AINEC

This. OT winner >> Gordie Howe Hat Trick or w/e.
Once Brady scores and OT winner v. the Leafs or Habs they will be about even.
Playoffs >>>.