Player Discussion Jesperi Kotkaniemi- So You See That's Where The Trouble Began,That Smile,That Damned Smile Edition

[ahmedou]

Player Discussion - Jesperi Kotkaniemi Part V

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[ColinO]

It looks like his stick's too long.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

It looks like his stick's too long.

Sticks too long, balance and skating is problematic, and weak physically. Hopefully he gets these things sorted out in the offseason, but I think we are seeing what he's gonna be for this year right now, and that's a pretty mediocre middle 6 player (which is still great considering his age and projected path).

 

[Archijerej]

Sticks too long, balance and skating is problematic, and weak physically. Hopefully he gets these things sorted out in the offseason, but I think we are seeing what he's gonna be for this year right now, and that's a pretty mediocre middle 6 player (which is still great considering his age and projected path).

Harsh. And here I was, thinking he was a #1 center, terribly misused by the coaching staff...

 

[cphabs]

I honestly think that Danault should be mentoring Coconut on how to be #1 center in the NHL. If is hasn’t already happened? It should.

 

[schnapshot]

Sticks too long, balance and skating is problematic, and weak physically. Hopefully he gets these things sorted out in the offseason, but I think we are seeing what he's gonna be for this year right now, and that's a pretty mediocre middle 6 player (which is still great considering his age and projected path).

How is he a mediocre middle 6 player?

Kenny Agostino is a mediocre middle 6 player. KK is just a rookie adapting to playing center in the best league in the world...

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

How is he a mediocre middle 6 player?

Kenny Agostino is a mediocre middle 6 player. KK is just a rookie adapting to playing center in the best league in the world...

Agostino is a mediocre bottom 6 player...

An average middle 6 player is still pretty good especially for a raw 18 year old.

 

[NobleSix]

I honestly think that Danault should be mentoring Coconut on how to be #1 center in the NHL. If is hasn’t already happened? It should.

Huh? That's pretty much the blind leading the blind on that one. What does Danault know about being a 1st line center?

 

[Scriptor]

Sticks too long, balance and skating is problematic, and weak physically. Hopefully he gets these things sorted out in the offseason, but I think we are seeing what he's gonna be for this year right now, and that's a pretty mediocre middle 6 player (which is still great considering his age and projected path).

Really. You believe yourself or you forget to read yourself? I think your head was stung by his stick.

 

[1909]

Huh? That's pretty much the blind leading the blind on that one. What does Danault know about being a 1st line center?

His line is not the #1 line, but the #2 line.

Drouin-Domi-Shaw is the first line.

 

[NobleSix]

His line is not the #1 line, but the #2 line.

Drouin-Domi-Shaw is the first line.

Yeah I know, that's what I was saying. Danault knows nothing about being a 1st line center because he isnt even a legit top 6 center.

 

[1909]

Yeah I know, that's what I was saying. Danault knows nothing about being a 1st line center because he isnt even a legit top 6 center.

Danault is not the one choosing his task and ice-time. When Kotkaniemi will have enough experienec, stamina, strength, he will be promoted to a top line and Danault will play on a 3rd. In the meantime, what is the point bringing back every single day that Danault is not a top-six. We all know that. And HE knows that too.

 

[cphabs]

Huh? That's pretty much the blind leading the blind on that one. What does Danault know about being a 1st line center?

I’m just a f***ing fan. All I know is that Danault is our 1st line center, and within any organizational philosophy? This should be/and is a hallmark of player development. Wonder what Danault will tell him?

 

[NobleSix]

Danault is not the one choosing his task and ice-time. When Kotkaniemi will have enough experienec, stamina, strength, he will be promoted to a top line and Danault will play on a 3rd. In the meantime, what is the point bringing back every single day that Danault is not a top-six. We all know that. And HE knows that too.

Did you even read the post I was replying to? Honestly?

The poster I replied to said that Danault should be mentoring Kotkaniemi on how to be a 1C.

My question to him: What does Danault know about being a 1C?

Stating that Danault isnt a 1C, or even a legit 2C is completely relevant in this case. That is exactly the point of bringing up the fact that Danault isnt a top 6 center.

 

[JianYang]

Stick length is a personal thing, so I won't get into that.

First thing is first, and it has been mentioned since he came here. He needs to grow into himself, then let's see where he is.

 

[DAChampion]

Did you even read the post I was replying to? Honestly?

The poster I replied to said that Danault should be mentoring Kotkaniemi on how to be a 1C.

My question to him: What does Danault know about being a 1C?

Stating that Danault isnt a 1C, or even a legit 2C is completely relevant in this case. That is exactly the point of bringing up the fact that Danault isnt a top 6 center.

Do the Habs have anybody who can mentor Kotkaniemi?

 

[NobleSix]

Do the Habs have anybody who can mentor Kotkaniemi?

It should be the coaching staff mentoring him. That's a huge part of their job, especially with an 18 year old aspiring top line center. Should he be 'mentored' by a 25 year old 3rd line center who is still learning himself? Probably not.

I don't really think its Danault's job to be mentoring Kotkaniemi anyway. That shouldn't be his responsibility or his concern at this point in his career. He should be concentrating on making himself a better player. Also, I simply don't really think he's good enough to be mentoring a guy like Kotkaniemi. He's a great third line center, don't get me wrong, but do I want Kotkaniemi taking pointers from Danault about life as a center in the offensive zone? No.

Should Danault be giving Kotka a few pointers on how to be better at faceoffs? Yeah, sure, just like any other teammate should be giving other teammates advice once and a while.

 

[yianik]

It should be the coaching staff mentoring him. That's a huge part of their job, especially with an 18 year old aspiring top line center. Should he be 'mentored' by a 25 year old 3rd line center who is still learning himself? Probably not.

I don't really think its Danault's job to be mentoring Kotkaniemi anyway. That shouldn't be his responsibility or his concern at this point in his career. He should be concentrating on making himself a better player. Also, I simply don't really think he's good enough to be mentoring a guy like Kotkaniemi. He's a great third line center, don't get me wrong, but do I want Kotkaniemi taking pointers from Danault about life as a center in the offensive zone? No.

Should Danault be giving Kotka a few pointers on how to be better at faceoffs? Yeah, sure, just like any other teammate should be giving other teammates advice once and a while.

KIRK. MULLER.

 

[A55P2]

Little question for you guys here. Do you remember Kotka at the rookie camp always clapping his stick to get the puck? It's the first time I see him do it this year. It's strange how often he did it during the camp and totally gave that away afterwards. I get it, he's young and timid but still I feel it's an interesting observation.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

The guy falls down at least once every shift, it’s a sight to behold.

 

[PKWeber]

He would look good behind Dach/Cozens

 

[Mrb1p]

He would look good behind Dach/Cozens

Or maybe Dach/Cozens would look good behind him.

 

[Scriptor]

It should be the coaching staff mentoring him. That's a huge part of their job, especially with an 18 year old aspiring top line center. Should he be 'mentored' by a 25 year old 3rd line center who is still learning himself? Probably not.

I don't really think its Danault's job to be mentoring Kotkaniemi anyway. That shouldn't be his responsibility or his concern at this point in his career. He should be concentrating on making himself a better player. Also, I simply don't really think he's good enough to be mentoring a guy like Kotkaniemi. He's a great third line center, don't get me wrong, but do I want Kotkaniemi taking pointers from Danault about life as a center in the offensive zone? No.

Should Danault be giving Kotka a few pointers on how to be better at faceoffs? Yeah, sure, just like any other teammate should be giving other teammates advice once and a while.

I think that Muller is mentoring Kotkaniemi and that sounds appropriate, given the type of C that Mul;er was and the type of C that Kotkaniemi seems to be. Muller is always whispering in Kotkaniemi's ear on the bench and I don,t think,s because Muller is making a pass at the kid.

 

[Scriptor]

The guy falls down at least once every shift, it’s a sight to behold.

I agree, Kotkaniemi is regularly on his arse, but he still regularly gets the puck to an area where e can profit from it being there. One day, he'll end up playing with wingers that will be able to anticipate where he's about to send the puck.

He keeps sending it to open ice near a moving Hab. We should be capitalizing on this more often.

But, yeah, he looks fragile right now, playing against men and from what I've seen the word with him on the PP was to get up in his face as he loses those one on one battles more often than not.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

I agree, Kotkaniemi is regularly on his arse, but he still regularly gets the puck to an area where e can profit from it being there. One day, he'll end up playing with wingers that will be able to anticipate where he's about to send the puck.

He keeps sending it to open ice near a moving Hab. We should be capitalizing on this more often.

But, yeah, he looks fragile right now, playing against men and from what I've seen the word with him on the PP was to get up in his face as he loses those one on one battles more often than not.

This is why I dont see how the Kopitar/Barkov comps make any sense. Kotka could be the weakest player in the NHL right now, and people think he'll become one of the strongest and a guy who wins with strength in this league?