Player Discussion Jesperi Kotkaniemi (Part VIII) - Pretty Mintniemi Edition

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  1. BaseballCoach

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    He can't help himself, the Clod. He needs his plugs. He asked for heavy help two years ago and it flopped. Now he has heavy help again, slow guys locked into the lineup while we take out skill to try a fourth liner.

    He's just a bad coach.
     
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    The physical and mental grind of a full NHL season was among the reasons why I initially advocated him playing another year in Liiga, so I can't say I'm too bothered by the idea of giving him some rest. I do find the timing of his alleged fatigue rather... convenient though - just so happens the team is in need of a wake up call.
     
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    The panic over him sitting one game is hilarious.
     
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    Not really considering those 30 year olds have already done it multiple times, their bodies have already adjusted. This is really an apples to oranges comparison.
     
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    Your dislike for Julien is clouding your judgment here IMO. I don't much care for him either, other than to say he's better than Therrien who was a complete steaming pile of horse****.

    I don't think there is anything to see here. Kid is banged up/tired and CJ is giving him a chance to recover. This has nothing to do with CJ thinking those other slugs increase our chances of winning. Yes hivingbthe kid a much deserved break before we enter the home stretch here. If he's getting scratched beyond this west coast swing, fine, but I don't see it happening.
     
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    Kotkaniemi's best strech of games was after the all-star break, when he came back rested.
     
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    The point is you are buying the banged up/tired line. It's bull crap. KK says he trusts the coach, but he is not tired. The stats of the past 10 games, even the past 3 games show he is not tired.

    Monday, the line was that he was improved to the point of being ready to center one of the top two LW scorers. Tuesday they needed someone to come out to allow Jordan Weal a well-deserved chance and they take out the guy who is playing much less tired than Thompson and Weise.

    Benn looked tired Saturday in the back to back, so did they put Reilly back in? No, because Benn is a veteran. Thompson had one of his worst games at the dot. Two games in two nights was a problem for quite a few guys, including Price. What to do?

    Julien is under pressure to make the playoffs and his instincts are to go with slow vets and supposedly safe play instead of attacking with speed. He did this in 2017 and blew a winnable series against the Rangers and is reverting to form now. The problem is that slow vets do NOT actually improve your chances which means they are NOT the prudent choice. The fourth line is now providing LESS than before the trade deadline when it was decided they were not good enough. Solve the fourth line, don't mess with the top three.
     
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    I think it fits on a road trip. Forces him to hang out with the boys all day in beautiful California instead of sitting on his butt at home.
     
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    I don't think it's so much injury recovery as much as the level of physical fitness. Generally speaking, 18 year olds don't have that base level of fitness that a prime aged player has and probably won't until he's 20 or 21.
     
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    That's a fair point. My biggest complaint on this isn't that game management shouldn't be a thing but that we should have had a plan for this from the beginning (and maybe we did). An 18 year old player probably shouldn't be expected to play an 82 game NHL season + playoffs + preseason + summer hockey + etc etc etc. NHL teams in general need to do a better job of this, not just with young players, but probably with all players.

    If KK doesn't play in California, it'll be a 10 day break. That'll could be absolutely huge down the stretch and into the playoffs. This is probably the perfect time to give him a break really, where we only have 3 games in a 10 day span.

    I wonder if this rest is a direct result of being in playoff contention. If we were in Ottawa's position, knowing when the season is ending, do we bother resting him?
     
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    Still don't understand why we'd sit him.

    The only thing I can think of is that he's being punished for missing a curfew or being late for a meeting or something. It doesn't make sense to me that we'd have sat him for that game, esp when there were a few days off before and after that game. If he was going to be sat, why wouldn't they sit him in the upcoming back to back?
     
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    I'm calling him Kotcan from now on.

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    You dont need logic when youre Clod. Much rather go with AHL players than a former 3 OA pick. Shades of 2012.
     
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    How are you gonna react if he sits him tonight?
     
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    mrb1p gonna lose his **** if his gf ****s up his beef n rice again
     
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    I dont know, Ill be mad at the team, like ive been for the past four years.
     
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    Don't you feel things were going too good with Kotka, and ish just HAD to go sour just cause well, we're the habs.
     
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    I’m not watching another game until KK gets back into the lineup.
     
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    Claude isn't Therrien. If it were Therrien, I'd just assume the idiocy.

    My guess is that something happened behind the scenes. That's pure speculation on my part though.
     
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    The kid has played a ridiculous amount of hockey. A lot more than what he played last year. I completely agree giving him a rest. He has looked tired or at least “off” over the past 20 days or so. As long as it’s not at the expense of winning, I’m fine with him resting a bit. He’s looked great on most nights,but honestly, it’s not like he’s lighting the world on fire yet. Yes, he’s having a great season for an 18 year old, but we’re not talking about a 20 goal 50 point guy here. He’s not there yet.
     
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    Um, Weal DID score and played great. And looked strong on face offs. It was want a bad move and it gave the kid some rest. There’s nothing suspicious about it.
     
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    I know, thats what were reduced to in MTL. We accept playing a guy that couldnt make the Coyotes or the Flyers over our prized jewel, over the chosen one.
     
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    He's just a kid in need of some down time.
     
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    Imo is that he will benched as long as we win with Weal. Coach wants a winning combo
     
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