Injury Report: Jesperi Kotkaniemi (Part IX)

[Vachon23]

Imagine if this injury make him slower and he came back next year even faster ! That could be a good news

 

[ZUKI]

No it wasn't the best. And he probably won't take the next step until this team chooses to develop him, which is never.

 

[Maliki2]

Imagine if this injury make him slower and he came back next year even faster ! That could be a good news

Or imagine this ends his short carreer. Always ifs and buts...

 

[Paddyjack]

This gives a better perspective on the way he played/was handled at the end of the season, and also why he wasn't keen to go to the WC

 

[ZUKI]

Kotkaniemi’s rookie year >> Galchenyuk’s rookie year

i agree with you . Offensive numbers of Galch were maybe better , but overall , Kotkaniemi is far better . Better vision , IQ , defensive play , anticipation , where to be on the ice . When you look at all the chances missed by Lehkonen ....

 

[Mrb1p]

i agree with you . Offensive numbers of Galch were maybe better , but overall , Kotkaniemi is far better . Better vision , IQ , defensive play , anticipation , where to be on the ice . When you look at all the chances missed by Lehkonen ....

And then you remember Galchenyuk played the whole year with Brandon Prust..

 

[HOPE]

And then you remember Galchenyuk played the whole year with Brandon Prust..

they probably also played on the same "Line" outside the rink too, if you know what i mean!

 

[EveryDay]

And then you remember Galchenyuk played the whole year with Brandon Prust..

Brandon Prust put 14 pts in 38 games for .37 pts per season while Armia got 23 pts in 57 games so .40 for this season while the offence was WAY UP.

Is KK really getting an advantage here? who were their 2nd plyer they were playing with? Lehkonen for KK and who for Chucky?

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

And then you remember Galchenyuk played the whole year with Brandon Prust..

... and Brendan Gallagher

 

[HabsMD97]

Yeah chucky had the better linemates overall, although he didn't really get much PP time, and lower minutes in general. I think both rookie seasons are fairly equal.

 

[LaP]

... and Brendan Gallagher

Gallagher was not back then the player he is today though.

Both rookie season are fairly equal.

 

[Deebs]

Kotka is a much smarter player than Chucky in their rookie year. Not similar at all imo

 

[ahmedou]

Don't scratch him again.

 

[Cole Caulifield]

I don't want to derail this thread with Galchenyuk talk, but as a thought exercise assume you wanted to ruin Galchenyuk's development and come up with a plan for doing exactly that. Then compare your plan to how we actually handled him.

I clearly wouldn't have put him with Pacioretty as first line center to start the season until he got injured if that was the intent.

 

[montreal]

It’s almost as if the coach has more information at hand when making him a “healthy” scratch and the armchair coaches need to settle down.

So do you think he was a healthy scratch during a playoff run but played in a meaningless game at the end of the season even though the coaching staff knew he had a minor knee injury?

 

[ZUKI]

And then you remember Galchenyuk played the whole year with Brandon Prust..

yes , but guess what ... the ultime weapon Lars Eller was their center . A guy able to score 4 goals / night , or score a Stanley Cup wining goal !

 

[ZUKI]

Brandon Prust put 14 pts in 38 games for .37 pts per season while Armia got 23 pts in 57 games so .40 for this season while the offence was WAY UP.

Is KK really getting an advantage here? who were their 2nd plyer they were playing with? Lehkonen for KK and who for Chucky?

Lars Eller

 

[MD thaivuN]

Brandon Prust put 14 pts in 38 games for .37 pts per season while Armia got 23 pts in 57 games so .40 for this season while the offence was WAY UP.

Is KK really getting an advantage here? who were their 2nd plyer they were playing with? Lehkonen for KK and who for Chucky?

Chucky played with a wide range of players. Prust, Eller, Cole, Ryder, Gally. After Eller got out of MT's doghouse, he was pretty much Chucky's main partner for the season. While i liked Chucky's season better, he was certainly better surrounded than KK.

It's hard to compare their rookie year. that being, it'll be interesting to see how KK's next 2 years stacks up to Chucky's 2nd and 3rd years. Chucky pretty much spent the following 2 years playing with Plekanec and Eller with both essentially playing the toughest match-ups (which actually goes against the narrative that Chucky was always sheltered).

 

[le_sean]

So do you think he was a healthy scratch during a playoff run but played in a meaningless game at the end of the season even though the coaching staff knew he had a minor knee injury?

He was a healthy scratch on the road where he wasn’t effective all season and where his icetime can’t be managed as well. He clearly wasn’t himself the last 20 games and I’m sure they knew he was sore so they sat him. It’s a combination of a bunch of things.

 

[HOPE]

I mean i guess it had to be done so he could be better in the future and injury free. But damnmit he needed that full offseason to get stronger and do massive powerskating. Hopefully he can start training pretty fast!

 

[ECWHSWI]

He was a healthy scratch on the road where he wasn’t effective all season and where his icetime can’t be managed as well. He clearly wasn’t himself the last 20 games and I’m sure they knew he was sore so they sat him. It’s a combination of a bunch of things.

played a meaningless last game...

 

[le_sean]

played a meaningless last game...

Okay? An injury that wouldn’t keep him out of a lineup every night but needed to be managed. They maybe asked him if he wanted to go.

 

[ZUKI]

played a meaningless last game...

you said it ; he played because it was a meaningless game

 

[montreal]

He was a healthy scratch on the road where he wasn’t effective all season and where his icetime can’t be managed as well. He clearly wasn’t himself the last 20 games and I’m sure they knew he was sore so they sat him. It’s a combination of a bunch of things.

Okay? An injury that wouldn’t keep him out of a lineup every night but needed to be managed. They maybe asked him if he wanted to go.

He didn't score on the road and he was clearly much more productive at home but he still put up a .29 ppg on the road which over 82 games is 24 pts. His production did take a hit towards the end, in the last 20 games he had only 7 pts but in 3 of those games were the only ones all season that he played under 10 minutes. So drop in ice time won't help production.

To me it doesn't make sense as clearly they weren't going for the playoffs or they would have upgraded the roster more then paying a few pennies for guys like Weal, Weise, Thompson, Folin. So if you aren't trying to make the playoffs, why not make sure you give the proper ice time to a kid that very well could be a huge part of your future. If he was injured, then they had no business playing him in a meaningless game no matter if he said he's good to go as it's not likely that a rookie is going to say no thanks I'll sit this one out. If the injury was so minor that playing on it didn't matter then that makes more sense as you just don't risk it with your 3rd OA pick when he had a major knee injury a year or so ago.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

And then you remember Galchenyuk played the whole year with Brandon Prust..

Well, Kotka played virtually the whole year with Armia and Lehkonen. Not exactly scoring machines those 2.

Then got a badly slumping Drouin on his wing, because what a rookie kid really needs is a prima donna on his line that can't produce. Fantastic recipe for success.