Megustaelhockey
"I like hockey" in Spanish
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Player Discussion Jesper Fast: Part II
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Tri state Ranger
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Idk about one of the best quite yet, but if he keeps this play up and keeps improving then yea, I can see it.
Matt4776
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If he keeps this up, he's gonna be a permanent member of our top-6 sooner rather than later.
We have an embarrassment of riches at wing. Nash, Kreider, Hagelin, MSL, Zucc, Fast, Miller.etc.
Still have Buch waiting in the wings. He'll likely replace MSL the year after next.
Not to mention we have Stepan, Brass, and Hayes down the middle.
Nasty.
We have an embarrassment of riches at wing. Nash, Kreider, Hagelin, MSL, Zucc, Fast, Miller.etc.
Still have Buch waiting in the wings. He'll likely replace MSL the year after next.
Not to mention we have Stepan, Brass, and Hayes down the middle.
Nasty.
Callahan and Fasth comparison
Pretty similar stat lines at age 22:
Regular Season:
Fast: 58 GP 6G 8A 14Pts
Callahan: 52 GP 8G 5A 13 Pts
Fast: 10:39 ES TOI/PG 1:06 SH TOI/PG
Callahan: 11:02 ES TOI/PG, 1:04 SH TOI/PG
Playoffs:
Fast: 13 GP 1G 3A 4Pts
Callahan: 10 GP 2G 2A 4Pts
Fast: 13:21 ES TOI/PG 0:54 SH TOI/PG
Callahan: 13:06 ES TOI/PG 2:25 SH TOI/PG
That season was Callahan's coming-out party, probably the best playoff series of his career vs. the Devils.
Pretty similar stat lines at age 22:
Regular Season:
Fast: 58 GP 6G 8A 14Pts
Callahan: 52 GP 8G 5A 13 Pts
Fast: 10:39 ES TOI/PG 1:06 SH TOI/PG
Callahan: 11:02 ES TOI/PG, 1:04 SH TOI/PG
Playoffs:
Fast: 13 GP 1G 3A 4Pts
Callahan: 10 GP 2G 2A 4Pts
Fast: 13:21 ES TOI/PG 0:54 SH TOI/PG
Callahan: 13:06 ES TOI/PG 2:25 SH TOI/PG
That season was Callahan's coming-out party, probably the best playoff series of his career vs. the Devils.
- May 30, 2013
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Eh, frankly, there aren't many great defensive wingers in the NHL.
Not a total leap.
Miamipuck
Al Swearengen
How about this, I have not noticed a single opponent's winger in these playoffs that was better defensively, none.
I agree, but only 1 game into this series. Fast has some ways to go before catching up to Palat IMO.
Miamipuck
Al Swearengen
A future Selke Trophy candidate. If he is this good in his first full year I can't wait to see him in the future.
aufheben
#Norris4Fox
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Idk I think he's pretty gritty too. Throws hard hits, takes hits to make plays, doesn't wilt in a scrum. Just an excellent all around player.
FLYLine27*
BUCH
When it comes to grit, and physical play..Cally beats him by a wide margin.
Defensively they are both great.
Defensively they are both great.
- May 30, 2013
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I'm not the biggest expert on defensive hockey, but it seems like any time a player hits a lot and blocks shots they get reputation for good defense.
FLYLine27*
BUCH
Eh, maybe if he was to face a player 1 on 1, but he was always one of our best PKers and IMO you need to be pretty good defensively to be a good PKer.
But your probably right, Fast is the better defensive player.
FLYLine27*
BUCH
Well blocking shots is considered a part of defense...its not just being able to stop a player coming at you full speed with the puck.
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He can block so many shots because his ****** defensive positioning allows for so many to happen.
That, and most good defensive players are savvy with their sticks in some ways. Callahan is absolutely not stick savvy.
Eh........defending short handed isn't anything like defending 5 on 5. A lot of basic hockey fundamentals are tossed aside when you have free range to clear the puck, and there's no incentive to make plays.
Its one aspect of it.
Callahan blew and still blows assignments on the regular and he was too aggressive laying down to block shots and opening up gaping lanes. Case in point: The only goal Canada scored against the US in the Olympics. This is why Brian Boyle was always 8000000x the PK'er Callahan ever was despite the reputation being the complete opposite.
His defensive game was always overrated.
Callahan was an exceptional PKer, and was the hardest working player 5 on 4. Also, who else aside from maybe Girardi would have the balls to dive right into a Zdeno slapshot?
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Exactly this.
Tight and highly disciplined defensive systems like AV's are the antithesis of Callahan's playing style.
FLYLine27*
BUCH
Selke Trophy:
10-11: Cally 10th in voting
11-12: Cally 4th in voting
12-13: Cally 8th in voting.
Sorry, but a player who is "Horrible Defensively" doesn't sniff the top 10 in voting for 3 years in a row. Look im not saying hes hes a god on defense, but he is absolutely a good defensive player.
10-11: Cally 10th in voting
11-12: Cally 4th in voting
12-13: Cally 8th in voting.
Sorry, but a player who is "Horrible Defensively" doesn't sniff the top 10 in voting for 3 years in a row. Look im not saying hes hes a god on defense, but he is absolutely a good defensive player.
