Jeremy Roenick done on NBC

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  1. Voight

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    I watch the movie Ted for a second time back in the summer and my oh my they could never release that movie in today's current environment.
     
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    That's kinda the point though. It's funny because it's **** that would have been reprimanded in a properly functioning office, even back in 2004. The same thing with a movie like Anchorman. It's still funny today.
     
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    He was the best thing they had.
     
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    He wouldn't have lost his job if he hadn't referenced his co-worker. If he'd just joked about a generic threesome rather than one involving his co-worker, he would have been fine. It's not just about outrageous and controversial things, its about context. And I can understand KT not condoning his actions, friends or not. Who wants to sit on a set or work with someone, knowing everyone out there has heard the comments he made; that's just going to feel awkward. I would imagine the on-air chemistry would not be the same even if he did return.

    I'm not a JR fan and won't miss his so-called analysis. If he gets another job, fine. I don't think he deserves to be black-balled or anything, but damn, just keep your comments to hockey, dude.
     
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    He was a shock hire to begin with and really I can't believe he lasted so long. It was a very excited hire. He was like Brett Hull lite. But the last few years he's reigned it in and has been drab and boring and down on him. The internet is a better place for him. Let's hope he can get together with Grapes.
     
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    It must be a very black and white world you live in, but most of us live in a society that is full of complexity and nuance. Something you say in private that is then put out into the world through some nefarious method is one thing, but if you willfully make a remark to a good friend in front of others who are offended in some way by that remark, you don't get to set the rules. You don't get to demand a reason for their offense. You may think you do, and you may think that since you and your friend don't find it offensive, no one should. That's the brand of arrogance that made that kind of inappropriate talk commonplace and something people (mainly women) had to just accept as normal until really not that long ago. I guarantee you that there are things which offend you that you could try to justify to another person and fail miserably because that's how these things work.

    Jeremy Roenick was a waste of time and space on NBC broadcasts anyway. He then went out and make inappropriate comments publicly. He doesn't get to put something into the public space and then act like it's a private matter between he and a friend, and you don't get to make that comparison in his defense because it's a false comparison.
     
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    Roenick forgot that we ain't the 90s anymore. Things go viral in an instant. The politically correct community are there waiting to point fingers and be outraged.
     
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    There's only one group outraged here, and they're supporting Roenick.
     
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    Jeremy Roenick seems like a good guy and was a good player. He made a witty joke, whatever. Probably a bit too careless of a joke but that's just how things are now.

    Mike Milbury is the one who always seems miserable on the panel and has a bad reputation anyway, along with the fact that Pierre Mcguire (who is only good for cringe) still exists in hockey.

    The American crew needs a whole revamping
     
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    That's crap.

    This isn't a case of surveillance run amok. This wasn't a case of a private comment that was leaked, blabbed, recorded or gossiped about. This was something he said ON A PODCAST, for consumption by the masses. Something he said knowing the time and place and what was going to happen when he said it. As someone who made a living being on television, you have to know better.

    If this truly was something said behind the scenes as a joke to maybe one or two people, I'd have a little more sympathy. If Roenick and Tappen had that kind of rapport where they could say things like that to each other as buddies, fine. But that's still inappropriate to say in public. Especially when working for a network that's dealing with backlash from similar incidents that they didn't handle correctly.

    And no, this isn't a case of someone being trampled by the politically correct police. There's still such a thing as right and wrong.
     
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    I believe Roenick is a genuinely nice guy and all, but he's a bit of a goof and he did go far. Especially live.
    Milbury still works on NBC... I didn't know and I hadn't seen him in a long time... Not that I missed him! lol
    They still got Randy Jones too ?? :ha:
     
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    It really is godawful. Keith Jones and Brian Boucher are just the most nondescript dolts, straight outta the Retired Flyer->NBC Sports Philly->NBC Sports program (as was JR, actually). Patrick Sharp is the handsome version of those two. Milbury is utter garbage, a very, very low rent Burke or Cherry without the flair. The backup play-by-play guys from the regional networks are mediocre, and the former women's player (I forget who it is) that they occasionally throw in the between-the-glass spot, she's just not ready yet. Tappen is capable and professional, but she's working with crap.

    Kevin Weekes is OK. Doc is OK, but idiosyncratic and old as hell. Pierre is actually a very adept hockey analyst, but also just a weird personality. He might be more tolerable if he was part of a more likable team, where there were some folks there to respond to his good insights and raz him a little for his weirdness.

    Honestly, the NHL Network folks are starting to come along and I could see a few of them sliding into NBC spots in the next couple years. Scott Hartnell is a pretty solid contributor. Scott Stevens is pretty stoic, smart, and direct, plus the fact that a ton of people hate him would make things interesting. Stu Grimson is surprisingly good, despite not being very fun to look at. I think Jackie Redmond might get a boost someday, she's able to actually get a bit of life and humor out of some of these old stiffs they saddle to her.

    Eventually, the national NBC broadcast is going to beam Taryn Hatcher up from NBC Sports Philly to the mothership--you'll see that happen in the next few years, whether she's hosting in the studio or working the sidelines. She's been a revelation, incredibly talented and professional broadcaster who can make the most out of even the most boring player interview or ad read. The Flyers themselves all seem to have crushes on her (Carter Hart's interviews are just one long blush and giggle), but she's an absolute ace who can really do the job--she won't be just in Philly for long.
     
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    Live? No it wasn't live. But even worse, for circumstances just like these, Barstool allows guests to review their interview and edit out any questionable content. JR stupidly left it all in.
     
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    I guess he had poor judgement, twice then. lol

    You should go back to your occcupation.
     
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    A few things.
    If you agree that he should've been fired for these comments then I get that, if you don't think he should've been fired then I understand that also. I can see both sides.

    - however, any poster whom has said something akin to 'I didn't like him anyways, so it's fine.' is on the wrong side of the fence. That's the same type of argument that says that the behaviour is fine if you like him.

    NBC. Seriously. They spend decades sweeping rampant sexism and assaults under the rug by despicable men whom actually did things - only to 'clean' their image by firing someone for a distasteful remark. I'm not saying he shouldn't have been fired however the hypocrisy is staggering. Try not to draw a parallel between Matt Lauer, etc. and Roenick, as that's worlds apart, and please remember that no matter the p.r. spin, NBC has been brutal - and would any us be surprised to find out they still are. They waited to see if there was a backlash or ratings drop before making their decisions. This is not a company that should get any kudos for their 'morality'.

    Don't The Chicclets edit interviews? I thought they did and that they weren't live - to protect against this exact kind of situation. I always just figured there was a tonne of this kind of crap edited out as they purposefully try to get guys to make off jokes or tell secrets or whatever.

    Lastly, we have to be careful what we wish for. Complaints all the time that hockey interviews are bland cliches - but if these guys weren't so cautiously reserved we'd see/hear a lot more of this.
     
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    Frankly, if an interviewee can't place a comment that falls somewhere in the gulf-sized gap that exists between "Bland Cliché" and "I'd have a threesome with this Women", we're probably better off without interviews. And the interviewee in question should probably follow some training in their spare time.
     
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    The only victim here is JRs wife , married to a jackass who would say something about nailing her friend on a public forum ( podcast) . Dude is an idiot.
     
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    INTERVIEWER: You guys got off to a great start to this game, a couple of first period goals. What's working in the first period?

    LUSTY AND UNPREDICTABLE NHL PLAYER: Obviously you know, getting pucks deep and focusing on getting to our game. Also obviously I really want to **** my wife's sister, obviously I've been thinking about that on the bench and I think it's obviously helping me play the right way.
     
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    Great use of "on the bench" here, so I'm not putting a very specific face on the LUSTY AND UNPREDICTABLE NHL PLAYER.
     
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    I think the comments obviously crossed a line of professionalism. But some people think that these comments if said by a woman might be received differently. I generally agree with the response that the quotes are uncommon coming from women. So I don't think that's ironic.

    But I do find it ironic that there's like this widespread indifference about the comments made about Patrick Sharp and Anson Carter. I didn't feel those comments were professional either. But I suppose people don't have a paternalistic/maternalistic reaction to guys like Sharp or Carter in the same way they would do another victim.
     
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    Regardless of whether you like him as an analyst or not, the reason for his firing is pretty bs. I would have understood a suspension. Firing seems excessive imo.
     
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    Do you have any proof of this? I'm pretty sure everyone thought both comments about Sharp and Tappen were equally inappropriate. Including NBC who make it clear that comments about both were the problem.

    It's only those who are trying to invoke a fake outrage over his firing that keep referring to Tappen alone.
     
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    Most of the outsider takes on Roenick's comments, myself included, don't matter much. Tappen's and sure, Sharp's and Carter's take, matters. We don't need to know their take. Just the suits at NBC do. If their take influenced the final decision on Roenick, it was probably the right decision.
     
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    All I looked at were the trending Tweets on Twitter. You wouldn't have been able to guess that he made other comments from there.
     

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